MAN NEEDS GOD AND AT THE SAME TIME GOD NEEDS MAN.
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MAN NEEDS GOD AND ALSO GOD NEEDS MAN
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Religious discussions continued
Here are some religious leaders at an annual meeting, it would be helpful if people discuss there religious issues, or any other issue constantly.
Religious discussions continued
Welcome to our page (43), Religious discussions continued
Dear readers, as
you can see, these hubs are being written to discuss and find a way to overcome
some of those religious difficulties that arise today, in order to do that we
are studying religious issues, so, we could say that these religious
discussions are religious studies of how religions serve humanity since we
believe that humanity needs God and religions, therefore we will continue to
discuss these issues, in the hope of finding our way how to overcome those
difficulties that exist today.
Now, we are calling
this hub, Religious discussions three, being also part of Prayers for Reconciliation and a chapter of
our religious writings and the continuation of discussions two, where we left
with Gino wanting to talk to our friend John very likely in an aggressive way,
so let us see what he had to say?
Dear readers, in
order to make it easier for you to understand what is happening, and before we
write Gino speech down, or should I say before we write Gino argument with
John, we would like to let you know what sort of a bloke Gino is; you see Gino
sometimes likes to make an argument out of anything, religiously Gino is a
Christian or Christian agnostic, sometimes depends on the way he feels he may
even act as an atheist, so we wonder what he is going to say to John next.
Now let us say who
is John; well John is a very religious bloke that really believes in his
Jehovah witness religion, therefore, everything for John is exactly as the
Bible says. Now as we have already said in our last hub, Gino seems keen to
talk to John, therefore looking at these two friends that seem to be on a
collision course, we are just concerned but at the same time we are curious how
this religious discussion or debate is going to be like soon. So let us see
first what Gino is going to say to John:
After my conclusion
on Mark speech in our last article, Religious discussions two: Gino approaches
John and starts to talk to him thus:
Gino to John
Hey John did you
hear Mark speech; he knows a lot about religions, doesn’t he? So now that you
have heard all that religious stuff, and knowing that there are lots of other
religions in the world just because man needs God somehow, I am asking you this, are
you still going to think the same and follow your Jehovah witness religious
beliefs as if it is the only possible way to go on believing about God and
religion? Or are you now going to be just like one of us and be open to any
religious discussion or comment and sometimes accept the outcome of that
comment. You see one can never be sure if what we have been told about God and
other religious beliefs, therefore we should really ask whether they are true
or not. What do you say to that?
John to Gino
Look Gino, Mark may
know a fair bit about religions, I will give you that; but you have to admit
that what he has said is only general knowledge and nothing else, that is the
way I feel about his speech; also I need to add that I am not convinced that
religious things are exactly the way he said, so I am still one hundred per
cent sure that I am right about my own religious beliefs and what is written in
the Bible, so I am not going to change my religious beliefs at all based on
Mark speech okay!
Gino to John
John, you are
really a believer and believe in God and whatever is written in the Bible, but
really you should think again about your beliefs, as you have heard there are a
lot more religions in the world, so, there may be, I say may be that one of
these other religions might be right and your beliefs are not. Look I don’t
really want to be hard on your religious beliefs here, but there are a lot of
people that think otherwise, in fact there are even people that do not believe
in God at all as you may know, in fact there are good intelligent people that
recon that God does not exist and there was no creation as the Bible says,
because there is no need for a god to create life, you see it is possible that
simple life just came about by itself, and then with the passing of time it
grew and became the way it is today through evolution, you know there is a theory
about this issue and most scientists agree with it.
John to Gino
I am sorry to say
this Gino, but today you sound to me that you have become an atheist; I thought
that somehow you were a Christian and that you believed in God somehow, I think
I have made a mistake in judging you a Christian, because today you don’t sound
like a Christian at all, you know what I mean, a Christian is a person that believes in God and fears God, because he wants God
to see that he is a good person and that he follows God commandment, therefore
he deserves perhaps eternal life?
Gino to John
I know that John,
but you see I just wanted to see what you thought about religions, let me say
outside your Jehovah wetness religion. For instance, do you really believe that
God created everything in seven days like the Bible says, or do you have some
doubts about creation yourself?
John to Gino
There you are
again; you are indeed an atheist and next thing you are going to say to me,
that through evolution and the forces of nature everything created itself and
that we are monkeys that through evolution have become humans. You know what I
mean, monkeys eating bananas, do you see a monkey in yourself and me or do you
see a person. Just listen to me Gino, monkeys are monkeys and cannot be
anything else, and humans are people just like Adam who was created as a
person, like God said in his own image, don’t you see that?
Preventing a religious argument
My comment (Frank)
Up to this point
the rest of the group I, Mark and a couple of other guys were talking various
things, while at the same time I was paying attention to what Gino and John
were talking about, just because I thought that Gino could really upset John
somehow, and I knew that I was right to think about that because something was
going to happen right now, therefore I had to do something to prevent this
religious argument escalate. So, I winked at Mark and pointed out to him that
something needed our attention so to speak, and we moved closer to Gino and
John, and then I said: you two really seem that you want to solve the world
religious problems right away, don’t you? But I have to tell you that it is
very unlikely that we would be able to find a way out by carrying on and
arguing the way you two do, because it is more likely that we can find a way
out if we happen to have the same views on some religious subjects.
Now since you have
started this conversation about creation and evolution, which seems to be the
most important piece of evidence that we all want to find out one way or
another that is if we can find any evidence either way. The point is here that
we need that evidence to decide about our religious beliefs, and also about how
much creation really took place, and what could have been the role of evolution
at the same time, in other words how the creation of mankind happened.
We have reasons to
believe that in order to do that we need to break our information source in
small pieces and decide with our own mental capacity and logic common sense, if
what is being presented to us can be true or not. In other words, anything that
is presented to us we must question the questionable and answer those questions
Now since Gino and
John have started this conversation about creation, let us try if we would be
able to do something about it?
Having decided to
try to keep this religious issue going, in the hope of being able to see what
my friends thought about it, I raised my voice and said; may we have the
attention of everybody present, as we would like to ask you these questions
about creation and the creation of man?
Do you really
believe that man was created from God exactly as the Bible says?
After you answer
this question there will be more questions like:
If you answer in
the positive, then the question is, are you sure?
If answer is
negative, then the question is, why not?
So, please answer
our first question: do you believe that man was created from God the same way
as the Bible says?
Some answer to our question/s
John answers to my
Of course, that is
the only way possible for man to be created, because God is the creator of
everything, it says so in the Bible and the Bible is the word of God.
Look, I have to say
that I am a Christian, but even though I am a Christian and believe in many
things that I have been told to believe in this religion, I doubt very much that
God has created man from plain earth soil, as there must be another explanation
how man came about to be created and why the Bible clams that God made man from
plain earth soil or clay?
I see what you mean
Gino, so I say that for myself don’t see any logic for God creating man from
dust, let us call it dust, because in the Bible “Genesis 3:19 says. “By the
sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out
of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” But that
is the Bible and there must be a good reason to say that at the time it was
written, but here we need to find out why it was written like that, if we want
to get a logic answer?
Peter answer (This
is another friend that came to the meeting)
Just to say
something for friendship sake, I have to say that perhaps I believe a lot like
Gino, so I think that if I use my brains and logic explanation, I say that
there must be another logic explanation why the Bible claims that God made man
from plain earth ground, but I cannot think what was the reason, so I am not
Mike answer (this
is another friend at the meeting, he may be an atheist?)
What I want to say
here is that really we are living in the 21st century and we know a
lot more now than when the Bible was written, so, by logic explanation hearsay
from well educated people and my own intelligence says that God did not make
man from earth ground, because that may very well be an impossible thing to do
even for God. This answer is written assuming that God exists; you see God may
even not exist What about that?
Frank (me the
I see every one of
you has got a different view or beliefs about how man was created, so we need
to ask more questions to find out the reasons why it is like that.
So, let me see what
we could ask you next time.
Dear readers, do
you see what we mean here? This is how religions are today and people will move
away from religions if they cannot be explained better in the future. So it is
up to us to do something that may help humanity understand these religious things.
Having said that, now we would like to suggest that perhaps a new way of
interpreting religious books could be helpful, or even perhaps a new religious
theory that would allow God and the forces of nature work together; in other words,
God would use evolution to create all living thing and everything else. We may
have to think hard if this could be possible to do? May God guide us all?
religious discussions above, we started to talk about other issues that are not
worth writing here, since we would like to keep these hubs just for religious