Friday, August 22, 2014

Israel exodus from Egypt

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Moses meets God on Mount Sinai, in the form of a burning bush, when Moses asked him who should I say has sent me to the Pharaoh, he said Yahweh, this is how we know the name of God is Yahweh.   


Israel exodus from Egypt
Welcome to our post of; Israel exodus from Egypt and the Mosaic laws.
May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious posts?
In our study of religions and how they serve humanity, we are also in search of how to reconcile religions and therefore any religious event that have shaped religion, in the hope that one day we would be able to use this knowledge to suggest what could be done to improve religions, or at least help religions survive at their best, since there are signs that religion is becoming less important these days, so we are back to review very old events to refresh our memories and see if we could use what we have learned, in this case we will talk about, Israel exodus from Egypt.
In the Old Testament according to the Bible Moses was to be killed from the Egyptians when he was born, but his mother abandoned him on a floating devise on the river Nile hoping for a miracle, so, it happened that he was saved from the river Nile from an Egyptian princess that had no children, he grew and learned in the Egyptian court the Egyptian’s ways, but one day he was attracted to his people and did something bad enough that the Egyptian Pharaoh banned him from Egypt, by now he knew that he was an Israelite and not an Egyptian, so he went in the desert thinking what he could do to help his people, he did not know yet that he had been selected by God to be the Hebrews leader that would lead the Hebrews back to the Promised Land, which was the same land that God had already given to Abraham their forbear.
As we all know since it is written in the Bible and we have been told about this event many times, since it is one very important event in the Old Testament; one day Moses felt the need to go up Mount Sinai to investigate what was there, since he was seeing some abnormal signs, so he went up Mount Sinai and saw a burning bush, but this burning bush was different from a normal burning bush, because while it seemed to be burning it did not burn out, a voice seemed to come from this burning bush telling Moses; stop where you are and take your shoes off you are on sacred land; this was the voice of God who appeared to Moses in the form of a burning bush and spoke to Moses, God said that he had heard the children of Israel laments and prayers, so he would help them to be free from the Egyptian bondage.
Now, because the Israelites were praying to the God of Abraham for this reason He ordered Moses to go back to Egypt to free his people from the Pharaoh slavery. Then when Moses asked God who I should say has sent me to the children of Israel and to the Pharaoh, God said, I am who I am and tell the children of Israel and say that Yahweh the God of your Father has sent me. (This is how we know that the name of God is Yahweh) So Moses went back to Egypt and after lots of arguments with the Pharaoh and some divine intervention from Yahweh God, which we are not going to write them here because they are too long and this article is more about the exodus from Egypt than what happened during this initial part. Anyhow in the end Moses finally succeeded to lead his Hebrew people out of Egypt.
As they left Egypt the Pharaoh tried once more to stop them and with his army ran after them; it is said that here again Yahweh God helped the Israelite cross the Red See as if it was dry land, and then the water of the Red See came back and drowned the Pharaoh army that was trying to stop them leaving Egypt. Here we would like to point out that this seems an impossible achievement, however this is what is written in the Bible more or less.
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On their way back to the Promised Land
On their way back to the Promised Land the Israelite went near Mount Sinai, since Yahweh God wanted Moses to go back to him up there, and there Moses went again up Mount Sinai, where he met God again and God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, this is how the Mosaic Laws started.
But let us tell the story in a more detailed way, because while Moses was on Mount Sinai waiting for God to give him the Ten Commandments, he had to stay there for a long time because that is how it happened and while he was there all those people that had left Egypt to go to the Promised Land started to have different thoughts, some of them wanted a god like the Egyptians had and they made up a golden statue of a bull, this action made Yahweh resentful of this god statue, not because of the statue, because it was only a statue and had no power to do anything, but because he wanted the people of Israel to believe only in him, as we could see from the first three commandments that he gave Moses.
Of course Yahweh God punished them for this event. But this event brings some doubts in our minds, therefore we would like to point out and say this; if the people of Israel had really seen and understood how everything had happened, since they were witness to everything that happened, for what reason they wanted this other god? Look they had been freed from slavery, they had crossed the Red See as if it was dry land and they had seen the Pharaoh army drown, what was wrong with them? Or perhaps what was wrong with this story being told one might ask? Because frankly if anyone had seen what we are being told; then anyone that had witnessed those events could not doubt even for a moment Yahweh power. Therefore there are reasons to believe that somehow something is wrong in this story here, but let us continue our story.
During the time that the Israelites were travelling in the desert to reach the Promised Land, Moses seems to have spoken with God several times, so, from these meetings with God, and also from those happenings that took place during this voyage from Egypt to the Promised Land, Moses and his brother Aaron wrote and laid down the first part of the Mosaic Laws that would guide the Hebrews from there on. During this period Yahweh gave Moses many laws the Hebrew were divided in tribes and these formed the 12 tribes of Israel, which are the families of the 12 children of Jacob also called Israel; because Israel is the name that Yahweh God wanted Jacob to be called, in a prior event that happened when Jacob was alive, God said to Jacob from now on you are Israel. That is how the name of Israel came about.
For easiness sake we are going to talk about the tribes of Israel hereunder, so that it is easier for the readers to follow, when they are separated thus.
At this point of time we would like to point out to our readers that we are not only writing all this Bible’s things just to tell you what the Bible says, but, we are also writing this to point out to you that most times people do what they have to do according to the times and places they happen to live in. So, we believe that whatever took place in the Sinai desert including the Mosaic Laws; it was something that at that time and place needed to be done the way it was done, in order to control the people better. About God being the main player and telling Moses everything that needed to be done, we are not sure about that, even though the bible tells us that God did.
Therefore, I rather believe that it was more what Moses and his brother Aaron thought that it was necessary to do at that particular time, than what God was instructing them to do, since they were the leaders of the Israelite they had to come up with some answers, we need also to say that whether there was Yahweh God that would be talking to Moses all the time is doubtful, perhaps if talking to God had happened less often than, it could have been possible? Anyhow, we are going to tell you more about this later on, because now we would like to talk about how the Israelite were divided, since this is very important to know, as they are going to form the 12 tribes of Israel; so now, let us talk about the 12 tribes of Israel.
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The 12 tribes if Israel
The 12 tribes if Israel
The Israelite was divided in 12 tribes one for each family of the children of Jacob, who was also known as Israel, since God had said that he, was to be called Israel.
The 12 children of Israel were: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Benjamin, Zebulon, Joseph, Dan, Asher, Naphtali, and Gad; these were the names of the 12 children of Israel, at least this is how I have found them written, and each and every one of them had their own family and became one tribe. Thus was Yahweh order through Moses, so that the 12 tribes of Israel were somehow independent of each other and they had to look after themselves so to speak, although they had to follow God’s order that went through Moses and his brother Aaron of the house of Levi.
The Bible says that God spoke with Moses many time saying to Moses, go and tell the house of Jacob that they have to do this and that and many other things. Now through all this talking new laws and ways of living were described to the sons of Israel, this is how the Mosaic Laws were formed in the beginning.
Perhaps the best way to show you what I mean is by quoting a few examples from the Bible:
Quote 1: Leviticus 18;
Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:
‘Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them:
“I am Yahweh your God. You must not behave as they do in Egypt where once you lived; you must not behave as they do in Canaan where I am taking you. You must not follow their laws. You must follow my customs and keep my laws; by them you must lead your life.” (There is a lot more that was said and I could write it but, I rather not)
Quote 2: Leviticus 19;
Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:
‘Speak to the whole community of the sons of Israel and say to them:
“Be holy, for I, Yahweh your God, am holy.
Each of you must respect his father and mother.
And you must keep my Sabbaths; I am Yahweh your God.
Do not turn to idols, and cast no gods of metal. I am Yahweh your God.
(There was a lot more that I could write down, but I am stopping my quote here since I was using these two quotes to give examples of what was going on in Leviticus between Moses and God).
As I have already said above God was speaking to Moses so many times in Exodus and Leviticus and even later on, but somehow these talking of God to Moses becomes doubtful, because if these meetings with God had really taken place and they had really happened all the time that it is written in the Bible, then the Israelites would have been more God conscious, but they were not as much as they should have been under those circumstances.
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Doubtful possibilities written
In the Bible there are some doubtful possibilities written
There are a lot of good things written in the Bible and one can go on to talk about them for a long time, but there are also a few things that don’t seem to add up and this is one of them.
By reading the Bible specially Leviticus it seem that Moses and sometimes his brother Aaron spoke with God lots and lots of times one after the other, as if they were normal happenings. But what I cannot understand and would like to ask here is this: if really Moses was speaking with God these many times as it is said in the Bible, it would follow that the Israelites should have seen or at least known what was going on during these times; therefore, they should have believed and follow whatever commands were given to them without even arguing in any ways, since what was being told was from Yahweh their God, but the story of the Israelite tells us that they had always doubts in their minds.
We are saying this because, every now and then the Israelite seem that they were not sure of themselves, and sometimes they were arguing about the reasons why they were there in the desert living a hard life, as if they had not seen what had happened around them.
What we would like to say here is this.
There may well be some reasons to believe that the Israelite of those days, did not see or hear God otherwise they would have had no doubts at all about God or Moses, and they should have been following blind anything that would be asked of them. For this reason it might be that all what has been written in the Bible about God talking to Moses so often might not have taken place at all or not as much as they claim. So everything might have been added later when the Bible was written and re-written many times.
This is one of our views, because we cannot explain it in any other ways and there is a lot more that can be said about these writings that don’t add up, but we leave it as it is for now.
In our next religious post we will still be talking about the Bible, because the Bible was also the Israelite history book, in those ancient times history and religion were written together, because whatever happened was thought to be religious or partly religious, so in our next article we will be talking about this.
So, see you in our next post, The Bible is Hebrew history

May God bless us all?
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Man needs God
Israel exodus from Egypt 
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Friday, August 8, 2014

Views about the creation of man

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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and this post, views about the creation of man
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Adam as Michelangelo painted him, in his famous paintings. Here we are discussing whether God could have really made a man like that and then gave him life, as it is claimed in the Bible.





Adam and Eva in the garden of Eden, while Eva is taking one of the fruits from the tree of knowledge, which was the fruit that God had forbidden them to eat.






 Some religious views about the creation of man

May God guide and help me to say the right things in this religious article?
Dear readers, here we would like to point out again that these religious writings are also a study of religions and how religions serve humanity; at this stage we are writing these articles and it may seem as if we are having just frugal talks with our religious friends, but in fact these religious talks are aimed at finding some real religious answers, as we have tried in our previous hubs.
As we have said in our previous articles, there are reasons to believe that all religions could be man-made, we stop short of saying that they are man-made just because we cannot prove it, therefore in this hub we want to collect more religious information and discussions that covers this aspect, and also in this hub we are particularly after information or discussion about the creation of mankind, since our friends Gino and Peter have expressed their doubts about God being able to create man from plain dirt, so somehow this creates another religious doubt, therefore now we would like to learn a bit more and then talk a bit more about this religious aspect.
Here we have to say that I start feeling that my religious friends have had enough about talking religions and they wish that we would change subject, so I need to try to avoid forcing religious talks on them from now on. So, since I have talked to my friend Mark about these religious matters, in our last article I have not talked religion to them any more; but I still want to write about these religious issues, and I need to somehow continue to talk religion to our religious friends, just to see what they think about this or that religious aspect.
So, I believe that from now on it is not going to be easy, because it has become a boring subject for them, since I keep talking to them about religions all the time, so now, I have to wait for the opportunity to talk about religions, in order to have their views about how they feel about this or that religious issue, I could also collect articles from the media to give me an idea what to say, but that is not as good as when I am talking to my friends, because when I am talking to my friends, at least I believe that what I write about my friends speech or discussions is brand new and it will be harder for Hub pages to find my hub having duplicate content, which sometimes is so frustrating and you don’t know where it comes from since you feel that you have written that article for the first time.   
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About hub pages creation of man
We would have liked to continue to write about the creation of man only, and we did, only to be told that our hub had duplicate content, so I have been forced to add this other article just to explain what is happening here.
About Hub pages duplicate content
Whoever has written hubs in Hub pages knows that soon or later may find that some of their hubs have been marked as having duplicate content. I believe that nothing in the writing world is really brand new, because first we have to learn from somewhere else, this is usually several articles that we read, then we try to see which things we agree with, and the rest we will try to forget about them, once we have made up our mind what is right and what is not right, we write it down our own way mixing the subject we have learned, therefore anything that we write have got to have some duplicate content, it cannot be avoided.
In my case of writing religious articles is even worse, because, you see religious discussions tent to say the same things again and again, it is only natural that they do this. To understand what I mean here one needs to follow just any religion. Now if you have gone to mass at the Roman Catholic Church, I am sure that you have noted that the mass is very much the same every time, even the sermons have their yearly cycle, so religion is a repetitive subject where it is hard to avoid repetitions, I hope you see what I mean when I speak of duplicate content.
Anyhow this does not mean that religious hubs would be allowed to have duplicate content, I only want to point it out how hard it is to avoid it. I have also told my friends what happens in Hub pages about duplicate content and all they came up with was; you have to try harder to avoid that and perhaps what you can do is this, you can quote what we say, so that even if we are saying the same things we are saying it and it is not you saying it. This is what my friends have also suggested, but I wonder if it would work; but let us go back to our religious talks about man creation.
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 Some religious talks

These are some religious talks about man creation
As it happened, the other day Mark, Gino and Peter were having this conversation in my presence and Mark was asking Gino;
Mark was saying to Gino;
Frank has told me that you believe and therefore said that God could not have made man from dirt because that would even be hard for God to do; what you have said makes me wonder whether you could tell us something more about the creation of man the way you see it, and perhaps some of the other created things that happen in the Bible.
Gino;
No, Mark I don’t have much to say about the Bible creation, except that if you think about it there are a lot of things that don’t make sense the way they have been written in the Bible, because if we use our imagination and our logic reasoning they seem to be impossible to achieve even for a real God. Therefore that is the reason that I believe that the Jews made up their own God so powerful that could make living people from plain dirt, perhaps also animals and other living things were made that way? Now, here I have to admit that the Bible does not say exactly what I am trying to say here, but you know what I intend to say, the Jews invented their own God, their own ways and for their own needs and they did it in such a way that this God was more powerful of any other God. I hope you see what I mean?
Mark;
Of course I see what you saying Gino! But what you are saying here opens a new way of thinking, if we are willing to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You see if we admit that man was not created by God from dirt, then also other creations are not true or they are only partly true, therefore we may have to look into it and discuss it many times before we can reach a conclusion, it also opens the whole Bible to discussions, as the Bible may not be exactly the word of God, or even inspired by God, just as Frank here said in one of his hubs; Religions are man-made, perhaps we have to agree with Frank description of religions, don’t you agree?
Gino;
Of course I agree with Frank’s descriptions, since I believe that more or less I am trying to say the same thing.
Here Peter comes in saying;
Look I and Gino somehow agree that man cannot be made from plain dirt even if God tries to make him thus; the whole thing seems just too great to be true as our own human understanding tells us. Now, as human if we take away that God is omnipotent and therefore can do anything, which in reality might not be as omnipotent as even God may have to follow the physical laws that exist in the universe; then the possibilities of God making man from dirt is almost nil and therefore there has got to be another way. You see that is the reason why we said what we have said in the first place.
Mark;
I understand what you two are saying, for a while I was worried that you two had become atheists, just as our friend John was saying the other day, when he heard what you have said. Perhaps as your beliefs stand, you may be agnostic rather than atheists.
Frank (me):
 What I have heard from your religious talks today may help me to write a bit more about how people see religions nowadays; it also opens the way for more religious discussions, So one of these days I am going to ask you to have a meeting and have another religious discussion, then, apart enjoying the good times that we have when we are together, I will be able to learn something else about your religious views.
Anyhow now let us enjoy ourselves the normal way I said and let’s forget about religions for a while; you see I had to say this, because I was not going to make my friends hate me for talking about religions all the time, even though religious subject are always on my mind.
Now that I have learned that I cannot ask my friends to talk religious issues all the time, I have to find my own way how to collect other information about the religious subject that I am going to talk about, so I am going to read more religious books and search for religious articles on the Internet and then write my own articles, so I will be taking some views from several articles, and then write a religious article my own way, just the way I see they need to be written in my posts.
Therefore I have made up my mind that I had to find my own way how to research other religious articles, since I could not rely on my friends too much for writing my articles, so there will be more research about creation and the creation of mankind that I am going to write later on, perhaps when we start writing our third part of our religious writing in Reconciliation of the universe. But because we would like to look at the Bible more closely, in our next hub we are going to write, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws. See you there.
May God bless us all?  
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Man needs God
Views about the creation of man
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
Next time with, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws.    
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Saturday, July 26, 2014

Religions could be man made

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Religions could be man made 


The most read religious book in the world, many religions come from this religious book that we call the Bible; one could say that even the Koran comes from the Bible, because in the Koran they talk about Abraham and the descendants of Abraham and many other things.    .




Religions could be man made

May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious writings?
There are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made, we say that they could be man-made, because we don’t want to say straight away that they are man-made, we need to give the benefit of doubts here, because we don’t have the proof required to say that they are man-made?
Now, if we assume that religious are man-made, we have to continue to search for the proof required to establish that. Because that would be hard to achieve we may have to believe that religions are man-made, and if we believe that religions are man-made then we need to explain religions in a better way and in different ways also, we need to explain why they have been made up first of all, and then why they have been made up the way that they have been made up.
But that is not all because religions might not be all made up, you see, we still have to take into account the spiritual side of our religious beliefs. The spiritual side even though is somehow a bit different between religions, all religions have a spiritual side, so we have to assume that there is a spiritual side, and from this spiritual side people have made up our religious beliefs.
Of course we know that there are some other reasons that we know already, why they have been made up the way they are today, as our religious friends were saying about religions in our last few hubs, there are reasons to believe that we need to explain religions in a better and perhaps in a different way, if we want religions to continue to serve humanity, as they have done in the past for thousands of years, we have also to admit that religions sometimes have done the wrong things, but overall they have served humanity well.
Let us start to talk about religious books

The Koran, the religious book of the Muslim. 








The Laws of Manu, is one of the main religious books of the Indian religion. 







Dear readers, as we have already seen from our previous posts and religious discussions with our friends, there are many other religions in the world; therefore we might have to assume that religions could be very likely man made; now, this does not mean that God does not exist at all, but it means that we should not follow blindly all religions and religious leaders who claim whatever they claim to be true in their religious orders. Therefore, we should first of all use our common sense and if we see that something does not make sense, then we should use our logic common sense and really check it out to see if there is any possibilities that what is being said may or may not be true.
If we talk about the Bible, perhaps what we want to prove here for a start is not whether seven days of at the beginning of the Bible were really seven days or thousands of years; but we also want to prove that whatever is written in the Bible is the truth, which I am afraid it might not be so; look at our hub, Flood in the days of Noah, here we may assume that we have proof that the universal flood was not as universal as we have been led to believe when we read the Bible, the flood may indeed have happened, but it did not cover the entire world.
Therefore, it is time that mankind wakes up and sees the truth, I know that this is going to hurt many believers, but the truth is that man wrote the bible, perhaps it was God inspiration at the beginning, but then they wrote and re-wrote it until whoever were in possession of the Bible words could control all believer under them. This is what I believe myself, but then I might be wrong. So here again I would like to consult and employ the help of our religious friends to see what they have to say about this religious dilemma.
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Talking about religious issues

Talking religious issues with our religious friends
Since we have the intention of continuing to write these religious writings, even if they are becoming a bit hard how to write them and also to meet with our religious friends to talk about religions, I believe that I may have to change the way of how I collect my religious discussions and also other issues that come with publishing these writings on the Internet. So, I am going to talk to our friends about this whenever and wherever I meet one of them, or several of them.
The other day I went to see Mark and we talked for a while about these religious issues, in our talks we somehow came to the conclusion that perhaps we really need to criticise the way the Bible is being explained to the believers, whenever and wherever we believe that they have got it wrong, with this view in mind we did not mean that the Bible is/was wrong, but the way that people use it might be wrong, because of all those double meanings that occur in the Bible.
Then there is also the facts that when the Bible was written for the first time, everything was a lot different from today, therefore the Bible was written according to those time in order to guide the people of those times, therefore if the Bible was to be written these days it definitely would have been written in a different way, we are pretty sure about that.
Now, keeping in mind what we have just said above, I and Mark believe that it might be necessary to write a few articles to show what we mean about criticising the Bible, whenever and wherever we believe there are issues that don’t agree with our own understanding of the Bible, just to show the public how we see those religious issues.
Here we have to admit that I am really thinking about this religious issue, because it does worry me a bit, because most people don’t like anybody that criticise the Bible openly, but anyhow it might be necessary to do it; not only because we would like to show the world that some of those meanings are wrong, but also because it is necessary to know they are wrong and that it is necessary to do something about it and show what they could mean.
Now the question arises, where we can find an important enough religious issue that needs to be reported to the public so to speak. So that one day people would understand why this theory of, Reconciliation of the universe has been written. So, I am thinking what the public or our religious friends could say about all this.
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Religious discussions with friends

Religious discussions with our religious friends Gino and Peter
A few days after my meeting with Mark, just by chance I encountered Gino and Peter; this is Peter that said that he believed in religions very much like Gino, we have met Peter in one of the last articles, if I remember right he said that perhaps there must be another logic explanation why the Bible claims that man was made from plain dirt.
Anyhow after chatting about a few unimportant but happy events, where people try to have good time and tell a joke or two and laugh, we ended up again talking about religions, as I asked them whether they had given any thought about what we were discussing last time we met.
Well they said, we have indeed thought a bit about it, perhaps not very seriously and we still believe that there must be another explanation why the Bible says that man was made from plain dirt. Yes indeed there could not only be just another explanation, but perhaps it is more likely that there are several explanations, so we could indeed tell you what we think might have happened in those times, which is just as we all have been thinking that religions are man made after all, therefore we must look at the reasons why man wanted that God would create man from plain dirt. While this was going on they seemed as if they were trying hard to compete with each other, and each one of them was trying to tell me his story first, as if it was a competition about who told the best story first.
Okay I said, I see that you both want to tell me this story of how things could have happened then, but take your time and tell me one story that would or could make sense so to speak and let us try to speak one at a time, so let us start with a story that both of you believe that it could have been possible.
Therefore, just for the time being, let us get started by telling me one of those stories that seems to be a bit more believable so to speak. Gino as you are older you can start by telling me this story and Peter can just come in whenever it is appropriate, and thus Gino started talking.
As we have already said about the creation of man before, man cannot be created from dirt, because even God has got to be subject to the laws of nature, because God first and foremost uses the natural ways to create or achieve anything, we believe that this is God’s way of doing things.
But the ancient Jews wanted that their God had to be more powerful than all the other gods put together, so they invented or gave their God this extra power, and their God was so powerful that could even create a man from plain dirt.
Here Peter comes in and says do you see what we mean? They (the Jews) wanted this super god that had so much super powers that was even able to create a man from dirt.
Can you just imagine how powerful a god must be since this God could create a real man from plain dirt? He would indeed be Omnipotent and nothing and no one could we more powerful than this God, we hope that you see what we mean here.
But where did this idea come from? Perhaps this idea came about when man started to make statues and in their fantasies wished so much that those statues could become real people or animals, or whatever they had made would come to life. Therefore they started to think that perhaps God would be able to do that, and thus that idea or wish that God would be able to make those statues become alive was born, so one day it became the great God legend in the Bible. Well that is how we see this event of man’s creation and we hope we got it right.
I said I see what you mean, but even this might not be enough for a real explanation.
Thanks for trying anyhow.
This is all what was said about religions at this encounter.
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What we should believe about religions

One may as well ask what we should believe about religions.
During our religious discussions with our friends we are having real difficulty in proving that God created life and everything else in the world; and then, it becomes even worse when we want to prove the existence of God, because sometimes even God existence is put to the test, now with this last discussion above that I had with our friends Gino and Peter it has become even worse. Sometimes I start thinking that perhaps the atheists might be right when they say that there is no god; and here I may add something myself and say, if there is no god then there is also no justice in this world or the next, since God and religions are the fundamental rules that in a way guarantees justice; I hope you see what I mean?
There is also the fact that I am not able to explain to myself everything about life that needs to be explained and therefore I believe that there should be a god; there must be a god for many reasons, because for most people if there is no god there is no hope, no justice or meaning about their lives.
Can you just imagine that there is no god and people that happen to suffer in this world cannot even think of something that gives them a tiny bit of hope, what sort of world is this? Would these people that already find life hard enough despair even more?
I know that we have even called this hub, Religions could be man made, but this does not mean that there must not be a god at all in any shape or form. Anyhow there are indeed many reasons to believe that religions are man made, but also there is the possibility that God really exists, as we have explained in our hub, God exists because life exists, you can check it out.
I believe that we have said enough in this hub, so see you with our next hub, perhaps after I have had another religious discussion with our religious friends. See you soon.
May God bless us all?

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Man needs God
Religious could be man made
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
Next time with, religion about man creation.   
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