Saturday, July 26, 2014

Religions could be man made

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Religions could be man made 


The most read religious book in the world, many religions come from this religious book that we call the Bible; one could say that even the Koran comes from the Bible, because in the Koran they talk about Abraham and the descendants of Abraham and many other things.    .




Religions could be man made

May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious writings?
There are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made, we say that they could be man-made, because we don’t want to say straight away that they are man-made, we need to give the benefit of doubts here, because we don’t have the proof required to say that they are man-made?
Now, if we assume that religious are man-made, we have to continue to search for the proof required to establish that. Because that would be hard to achieve we may have to believe that religions are man-made, and if we believe that religions are man-made then we need to explain religions in a better way and in different ways also, we need to explain why they have been made up first of all, and then why they have been made up the way that they have been made up.
But that is not all because religions might not be all made up, you see, we still have to take into account the spiritual side of our religious beliefs. The spiritual side even though is somehow a bit different between religions, all religions have a spiritual side, so we have to assume that there is a spiritual side, and from this spiritual side people have made up our religious beliefs.
Of course we know that there are some other reasons that we know already, why they have been made up the way they are today, as our religious friends were saying about religions in our last few hubs, there are reasons to believe that we need to explain religions in a better and perhaps in a different way, if we want religions to continue to serve humanity, as they have done in the past for thousands of years, we have also to admit that religions sometimes have done the wrong things, but overall they have served humanity well.
Let us start to talk about religious books

The Koran, the religious book of the Muslim. 








The Laws of Manu, is one of the main religious books of the Indian religion. 







Dear readers, as we have already seen from our previous posts and religious discussions with our friends, there are many other religions in the world; therefore we might have to assume that religions could be very likely man made; now, this does not mean that God does not exist at all, but it means that we should not follow blindly all religions and religious leaders who claim whatever they claim to be true in their religious orders. Therefore, we should first of all use our common sense and if we see that something does not make sense, then we should use our logic common sense and really check it out to see if there is any possibilities that what is being said may or may not be true.
If we talk about the Bible, perhaps what we want to prove here for a start is not whether seven days of at the beginning of the Bible were really seven days or thousands of years; but we also want to prove that whatever is written in the Bible is the truth, which I am afraid it might not be so; look at our hub, Flood in the days of Noah, here we may assume that we have proof that the universal flood was not as universal as we have been led to believe when we read the Bible, the flood may indeed have happened, but it did not cover the entire world.
Therefore, it is time that mankind wakes up and sees the truth, I know that this is going to hurt many believers, but the truth is that man wrote the bible, perhaps it was God inspiration at the beginning, but then they wrote and re-wrote it until whoever were in possession of the Bible words could control all believer under them. This is what I believe myself, but then I might be wrong. So here again I would like to consult and employ the help of our religious friends to see what they have to say about this religious dilemma.
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Talking about religious issues

Talking religious issues with our religious friends
Since we have the intention of continuing to write these religious writings, even if they are becoming a bit hard how to write them and also to meet with our religious friends to talk about religions, I believe that I may have to change the way of how I collect my religious discussions and also other issues that come with publishing these writings on the Internet. So, I am going to talk to our friends about this whenever and wherever I meet one of them, or several of them.
The other day I went to see Mark and we talked for a while about these religious issues, in our talks we somehow came to the conclusion that perhaps we really need to criticise the way the Bible is being explained to the believers, whenever and wherever we believe that they have got it wrong, with this view in mind we did not mean that the Bible is/was wrong, but the way that people use it might be wrong, because of all those double meanings that occur in the Bible.
Then there is also the facts that when the Bible was written for the first time, everything was a lot different from today, therefore the Bible was written according to those time in order to guide the people of those times, therefore if the Bible was to be written these days it definitely would have been written in a different way, we are pretty sure about that.
Now, keeping in mind what we have just said above, I and Mark believe that it might be necessary to write a few articles to show what we mean about criticising the Bible, whenever and wherever we believe there are issues that don’t agree with our own understanding of the Bible, just to show the public how we see those religious issues.
Here we have to admit that I am really thinking about this religious issue, because it does worry me a bit, because most people don’t like anybody that criticise the Bible openly, but anyhow it might be necessary to do it; not only because we would like to show the world that some of those meanings are wrong, but also because it is necessary to know they are wrong and that it is necessary to do something about it and show what they could mean.
Now the question arises, where we can find an important enough religious issue that needs to be reported to the public so to speak. So that one day people would understand why this theory of, Reconciliation of the universe has been written. So, I am thinking what the public or our religious friends could say about all this.
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Religious discussions with friends

Religious discussions with our religious friends Gino and Peter
A few days after my meeting with Mark, just by chance I encountered Gino and Peter; this is Peter that said that he believed in religions very much like Gino, we have met Peter in one of the last articles, if I remember right he said that perhaps there must be another logic explanation why the Bible claims that man was made from plain dirt.
Anyhow after chatting about a few unimportant but happy events, where people try to have good time and tell a joke or two and laugh, we ended up again talking about religions, as I asked them whether they had given any thought about what we were discussing last time we met.
Well they said, we have indeed thought a bit about it, perhaps not very seriously and we still believe that there must be another explanation why the Bible says that man was made from plain dirt. Yes indeed there could not only be just another explanation, but perhaps it is more likely that there are several explanations, so we could indeed tell you what we think might have happened in those times, which is just as we all have been thinking that religions are man made after all, therefore we must look at the reasons why man wanted that God would create man from plain dirt. While this was going on they seemed as if they were trying hard to compete with each other, and each one of them was trying to tell me his story first, as if it was a competition about who told the best story first.
Okay I said, I see that you both want to tell me this story of how things could have happened then, but take your time and tell me one story that would or could make sense so to speak and let us try to speak one at a time, so let us start with a story that both of you believe that it could have been possible.
Therefore, just for the time being, let us get started by telling me one of those stories that seems to be a bit more believable so to speak. Gino as you are older you can start by telling me this story and Peter can just come in whenever it is appropriate, and thus Gino started talking.
As we have already said about the creation of man before, man cannot be created from dirt, because even God has got to be subject to the laws of nature, because God first and foremost uses the natural ways to create or achieve anything, we believe that this is God’s way of doing things.
But the ancient Jews wanted that their God had to be more powerful than all the other gods put together, so they invented or gave their God this extra power, and their God was so powerful that could even create a man from plain dirt.
Here Peter comes in and says do you see what we mean? They (the Jews) wanted this super god that had so much super powers that was even able to create a man from dirt.
Can you just imagine how powerful a god must be since this God could create a real man from plain dirt? He would indeed be Omnipotent and nothing and no one could we more powerful than this God, we hope that you see what we mean here.
But where did this idea come from? Perhaps this idea came about when man started to make statues and in their fantasies wished so much that those statues could become real people or animals, or whatever they had made would come to life. Therefore they started to think that perhaps God would be able to do that, and thus that idea or wish that God would be able to make those statues become alive was born, so one day it became the great God legend in the Bible. Well that is how we see this event of man’s creation and we hope we got it right.
I said I see what you mean, but even this might not be enough for a real explanation.
Thanks for trying anyhow.
This is all what was said about religions at this encounter.
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What we should believe about religions

One may as well ask what we should believe about religions.
During our religious discussions with our friends we are having real difficulty in proving that God created life and everything else in the world; and then, it becomes even worse when we want to prove the existence of God, because sometimes even God existence is put to the test, now with this last discussion above that I had with our friends Gino and Peter it has become even worse. Sometimes I start thinking that perhaps the atheists might be right when they say that there is no god; and here I may add something myself and say, if there is no god then there is also no justice in this world or the next, since God and religions are the fundamental rules that in a way guarantees justice; I hope you see what I mean?
There is also the fact that I am not able to explain to myself everything about life that needs to be explained and therefore I believe that there should be a god; there must be a god for many reasons, because for most people if there is no god there is no hope, no justice or meaning about their lives.
Can you just imagine that there is no god and people that happen to suffer in this world cannot even think of something that gives them a tiny bit of hope, what sort of world is this? Would these people that already find life hard enough despair even more?
I know that we have even called this hub, Religions could be man made, but this does not mean that there must not be a god at all in any shape or form. Anyhow there are indeed many reasons to believe that religions are man made, but also there is the possibility that God really exists, as we have explained in our hub, God exists because life exists, you can check it out.
I believe that we have said enough in this hub, so see you with our next hub, perhaps after I have had another religious discussion with our religious friends. See you soon.
May God bless us all?

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Tuesday, July 8, 2014

Again more religious discussions

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The ancient religious book the Bible, is the most read book in the whole world, so people always talk about the Bible and its content or beliefs, so, this is also the reason why we are having these religious discussions.



Discussions with Mark and John

More religious discussions with Mark and John
Now that John had said what he really wanted to say, we were back to normal discussions, so Mark started talking and said;
I believe that you have had a real interesting discussion with Gino and Peter about this creation of mankind in the Bible; but I cannot help thinking that Gino specially when he is with Peter or someone else like him Gino can tell you some extreme views of the whole situation, therefore to say that he is becoming an atheist is wrong, because I know Gino very well and I can tell you that sometimes he likes to exaggerate things just for the fun of it, I am telling this specially for you John, because you seem to worry about this religious situation that Gino has got into.
John said; okay Mark I can see what you mean; but I believe what I believe and I am not going to hold it back, therefore when I strongly believe that I have to speak out, I will speak out and this is just what I did, okay. Anyhow let us hear what you think yourself about what they said.
And Mark continues to tell us his views; you see Gino and Peter have sometimes extreme views, but when reflecting what they have said in this instance and many other things put together it might not seem that extreme after all.
So, let us reflect a bit on this situation by using our own intelligence and imagination; first of all there have been always extreme beliefs and views in religions, if we look back at history we will find that religions have helped mankind in many ways; but then, many other times religions have done things so extreme and terrible, in order to achieve these things religions needed something that one may call extreme that is how it works out.
You see you cannot control people just by being nice to them; people need rules and somebody or something that enforces those rules and that is the reason why religions have been written the way they have been written.
I am sorry to say this John, but what is written in religious books is not always the truth, or the ways that the religious things really are. Therefore, if Gino and Peter have gone out of the way of the beliefs that everybody accept, just because we have been told that that is the truth; then Gino and Peter may have got it right this time, just because what they are saying is just as extreme as the creation of mankind in the Bible, if we use our own logic reasoning mind.
We have also to keep in mind that there are some other major religions that explain the creation of man in different ways; here I am talking about the Hindus religions and I quote;
“Hinduism perceives the whole creation and its cosmic activity as the work of three fundamental forces symbolized by three gods, which constitutes the Hindu Trinity or ‘Trimurti’: Brahma - the creator, Vishnu - the sustainers, and Shiva - the destroyer.” End of quote. It is said that mankind sprang from Brahma body and there were four caste, or type of men. As you can see this is somehow different from the Bible creation. Now let us see a bit more after we look at some Indian photos of Manu and Brahma;

The great sage Manu, in The Laws of Manu






Lord Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva
At least this is how it looks to us westerners, it is three gods in one; this might be strange but also our own Western God is described as a trinity; The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit. ------------------  
And now, let us go back where we were and continue our discussions; For these reasons, I may as well say well done Gino and Peter, since you have opened a new way on how to challenge those things in the Bible that don’t make sense.
What do you think about all what I have said, Frank and John?
Here Mark stopped talking, so we exchanged our views about what had been said overall, and then started talking about the weather and the news of the day.
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Reflecting on what has been said above and in the hubs before, I believe that Mark is right and perhaps I may really have to meet with our religious friends again in the future, and somehow try to discuss, how we could review what is written in the Bible, even as you know modifying or changing the meanings in the Bible may sometimes make me feel a bit scared; you know I am still a believer and those curses that are written in the Bible sometimes worry me.
I believe that I have said enough in this post, so, see you next time, where we would be writing about, religions are man-made or could be man-made.
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Thursday, June 12, 2014

Religious discussions 4

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Here again we will be discussing the Bible creation of mankind.









Religious discussions 4

Whenever we discuss religious issues, whichever way we look at it we have to say that religions are really so complex that we could go on forever arguing about what is right and what is wrong: which religion is good and which one is not that good; what beliefs could be true and what cannot be true at all, and above all, does God really exist or is it all a human invention? These questions about religions have been there for ages, they are very true today as they were in the past and would for sure arises in the future if we are not able to find a satisfactory way that explains religions in a better way than the explanations that we have today. In fact in the future it might become more urgent to find a good answer to these religious questions.
It is going to be so, because now that the people could learn a lot faster than they used to learn before, since most people have access to a computer and the computer makes it easy to find any information we want, we should ask ourselves what is going to happen to religions when the people realise that there are so many religions in the whole wide world beside their own religious beliefs.
Is it possible that the earth people will ignore this new found knowledge and continue to believe in religions just the way that they have believed for thousands of years?
Or perhaps people will see all these existing religions and they will start to believe that religions could be manmade, this subject we are going to discuss in our next hub, because we believe that these religious questions are complex and need to be explained somehow.
Now having come so far writing many articles about religions, we believe that we have to continue to write about religions, in the hope that with the help of our religious friends and perhaps God, we may be able to find or suggest a way that will explain religions in a modern way, that is if there is a way and we are able to find it and then publish it here for you to read.
With this decision in mind as I have made up my mind that somehow I am going to talk to our religious friends again about religions, I have to explain to them that the reasons why I want to talk to them is that I would like to find out more about religions and how they could help me achieve my goal, in the hope that I would be able to see how religions could or would become in the future.
Now that I have explained to our readers what is on my mind, all I have to do is to meet with our religious friends and start discussing these religious issues.
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Calling on our religious friend

Calling on my friend Mark
A few days after the meeting that I have talked about in the last few posts, I was thinking that perhaps I should invite some of my friend’s home again, but this involved to tell them what I wanted to do or find another excuse to invite them, but in the end I decided to visit first my more serious and trusted friend Mark, as I wanted to talk to him one to one instead of talking with all my other friends religious or otherwise together.
So, one day I went to see Mark at his home knowing that this was his day off from work, when I arrived at his home there was this other friend with him, but anyhow it was John the bloke that read the end of the Bible in one of our previous posts; The end of time discussions, therefore the presence of John did not worry me, since John is a religious bloke and religions is what I wanted to talk about. The reason that John was there is that he lives up the street and he was going to the shops past Mark house, he saw that Mark was there and decided to stop just to exchange a few words with him.
So when I arrived John was about to leave, but my arrival stopped him, as Mark invited me and him back inside to have a cup of tea or drink something.
Anyhow we set down and we started to talk, and soon I was talking about a short chance meeting that I had with Gino and Peter the previous day and the short religious talk that I had with them, so I told Mark and John in detail what was said thus;
Gino and Peter believe that man cannot be created from plain dirt, because even God must be subject to the laws of physic or natural laws, and anyhow, if there is really a God, then this God will use first of all the natural laws to create anything.
And then they came up with this theory that the Hebrews wanted their God more powerful than any other god and they invented a god so powerful that could even create a man from dirt.
They backed this theory up with some other ways of reasoning that somehow could make sense.
Now, I have come here to have a friendly talk, and also, I have come here to talk about this and see just what do you think about this theory of Gino and Peter. Do you think that it is possible what they have said?
Now if you believe that that could be possible, then for the first time we seem to have explained the Bible in a different way, so, from now on we have a real challenge ahead of us, as we might find many other religious writings in the Bible that might need to be explained in a new way, and the reason why they have been written the way they have been written.
Now I would like to know what you think about Gino and Peter theory, then I would like to imagine that we really could do something important, therefore I would like to ask what do you think we could do to find out more about how to solve these present religious problems, you know already that I am keen to write this religious theory and suggest to the world the theory, I know that it is only going to be a simple religious theory that I have in mind, but it could be a start of a new religious way, at least I hope we could do it.
Anyhow this post is becoming too long, so we will continue to talk about this subject in our next post, and see what Mark and John have to say.
May God bless us all?

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Saturday, May 24, 2014

Preventing a religious argument

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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The Bible sometimes says things that have several meanings.



The creation and the creation of mankind, is one of those things that today is hard to believe that it has happened just the way it is written in the Bible.






Preventing a religious argument
Dear readers, to understand the beginning of this post, one need to read our previous post called “religious discussion”, where we had reached the stage of this discussions that sounded more like an argument than just discussions between John and Gino.   
Anyhow, up to this point the rest of the group I, Mark and a couple of other guys were talking various things, while at the same time I was paying attention to what Gino and John were talking about, just because I thought that Gino could really upset John somehow, and I knew that I was right to think about that because something was going to happen right now, therefore I had to do something to prevent this religious argument escalate. So, I winked at Mark and pointed out to him that something needed our attention so to speak, and we moved closer to Gino and John, and then I said:
You two really seem that you want to solve the world religious problems right away, don’t you? But I have to tell you that it is very unlikely that we would be able to find a way out by carrying on and arguing the way you two do, because it is more likely that we can find a way out if we happen to have the same views on this religious subject.
Now since you have started this conversation about creation and evolution, which seems to be the most important piece of evidence that we all want to find out one way or another that is if we can find any evidence either way. The point is here that we need that evidence to decide about our religious beliefs, and also about how much creation really took place, and what could have been the role of evolution at the same time, in other words how the creation of mankind happened.
Here I stopped talking for a few seconds, so that I could reflect about what I could say next, and then I resumed speaking;
I have reasons to believe that in order to find any resolution to these religious questions we need to break our information source in small pieces and decide with our own mental capacity and logic common sense, if what is being presented to us can be true or not. In other words anything that is presented to us we must question the questionable and answer those questions truthfully.
Now since Gino and John have started this conversation about creation, let us try if we would be able to do something about it?
So, may I have the attention of everybody present, as I want to ask you these questions about the creation of man?
Do you really believe that man was created from God exactly as the Bible says?
After you answer this question there will be more questions like:
If answer is negative, then the question is why not?
So, please answer my first question: do you believe that man was created from God the same way as the Bible says?
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Some answer to my question/s

John answer
Of course, that is the only way possible for man to be created, because God is the creator of everything, it says so in the Bible and the Bible is the word of God.
Gino answer
I have to say that I am a Christian, but even though I am a Christian and believe in many things that I have been told to believe in this religion, I doubt very much that God has created man from plain earth soil there must be another explanation how man came about to be created and why the Bible clams that God made man from plain earth soil?
Mark answer
I see what you mean Gino, I for myself don’t see any logic for God creating man from dust, let us call it dust, because in the Bible “Genesis 3:19 says. “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” But that is what is written in the Bible and there must be a good reason to say that at the time it was written it sounded good; but here we would like to find out why it was written like that, if we want to get a logic answer?
Peter answer (This is another friend that came to the meeting)
Just to say something for friendship sake, I have to say that perhaps I believe a lot like Gino, so I think that if I use my brains and logic explanation, I say that there must be another logic explanation why the Bible claims that God made man from plain earth ground, perhaps it was just because it sounds impressive.
Mike answer (this is another friend at the meeting, he may be an atheist?)
What I want to say here is that really we are living in the 21st century and we know a lot more now than when the Bible was written, so, by logic explanation hearsay from well educated people and my own intelligence says that God did not make man from earth ground, because that may very well be an impossible thing to do even for God. This answer is given assuming that God exists; you see God may even not exist What about that?
Frank (me the writer)
I see every one of you has got a different view or beliefs about how man was created, so we need to ask more questions to find out the reasons why it is like that.
So, let me see what I could ask you next time.
Dear readers, do you see what we mean? This is how religions are today and people will move away from religions if they cannot be explained better in the future. So it is up to us to do something that may help humanity understand these religious things; perhaps it may not be the way that religious people see it, but we need to work on it and here I would suggest that perhaps a new way of interpreting religious books could be helpful, or even perhaps a new religious theory that would allow God and the forces of nature to work together; in other words God would use evolution to create all living things and everything else. We may have to think hard if this could be possible? May God guide us?
After these religious discussions above, we started to talk about other issues that are not worth writing here, since we would like to keep these articles just for religious talks?
See you next time.
May God bless us all?
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Monday, May 12, 2014

Religious discussions

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Welcome to our blog, Man needs God
and this post, Religious discussion
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It is usually a good sign when people from different religions meet and talk their differences.

Some people meet and talk all sorts of issues, whether these discussions are religious or otherwise is not going to make a great difference, because a meeting is successful only when people reach an agreement.  


Religious discussions

As anyone can see, these articles are being written to discuss and overcome some of those religious difficulties that arise today, in order to do that we can say that this is a religious study of how religions serve humanity since humanity needs God and religions, therefore we will continue to discuss these issues, in the hope of finding a way how to overcome those difficulties.
So this post is Religious discussions three, being also part of Prayers for Reconciliation and a chapter of our religious writings and the continuation of discussions two, in our post “The western world religions”, where we left with Gino wanting to talk to our friend John in an aggressive way, so let us see what he had to say?
Dear readers, in order to make it easier for you to understand what is happening, and before we write Gino speech down, or should we say before we write Gino argument with John, we would like to let you know what sort of a bloke Gino is; you see Gino sometimes likes to make an argument out of anything, religiously Gino is a Christian or Christian agnostic, sometimes depends on the way he feels he may even act as an atheist, so we wonder what he is going to say to John next.
Now let us say who is John; well John is a very religious bloke that really believes in his Jehovah witness religion, so everything for John is exactly as the Bible says. Now as we have already said in my last post, Gino seems keen to talk to John, therefore looking at these two friends we are just curious how this religious discussion or debate is going to be like. So let us see first what Gino is going to say to John:
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 A religious debate or discussions

After my conclusion on Mark speech in our last post, Gino approaches John and starts to talk to him thus:
Gino to John
Hey John did you hear Mark speech; he knows a lot about religions, doesn’t he? So now that you have heard all that religious stuff, and knowing that there are lots of other religions in the world just because man needs God somehow, I am asking you this, are you still going to think the same and follow your Jehovah witness religious beliefs as if it is the only possible way to go in your religious ways? Or are you going to be just like one of us and be open to any religious discussion or comment and sometimes accept that comment. You see one could never be sure if what we have been told about God and other religious beliefs are true or not. What do you say to that?
John to Gino
Look Gino, Mark may know a fair bit about religions, I will give you that; but you have to admit that what he has said is only general knowledge, that is the way I feel about his speech; also I need to add that I am not convinced that religious things are exactly the way he said, so I am still one hundred per cent sure that I am right about my own religious beliefs, because I believe that the Jehovah Witness religion is the only true religion, so, I am not going to change my beliefs at all based on Mark speech Okay.
Gino to John
John, you are really a believer and believe in God and whatever is written in the Bible, but really you should think again about your beliefs, as you have heard there are a lot more religions in the world, so, there may be, I say may be that one of these other religions might be right and your beliefs are not. Look I don’t really want to be hard on your religious beliefs here, but there are a lot of people that think otherwise, in fact there are even people that do not believe in God at all as you may know, in fact there are good intelligent people that reckon that God does not exist and there was no creation as the Bible says, because there is no need for a god to create life, you see it is possible that simple life just came about by itself, and then with the passing of time it grew and became the way it is today through evolution, you know there is a theory about this issue.
John to Gino
I am sorry to say this Gino, but today you sound to me that you have become an atheist; I thought that somehow you were a Christian and that you believed in God somehow, I believe that I have made a mistake in judging you a Christian, because today you don’t sound like a Christian at all, you know what I mean, a Christian is a person that believes in God and fears God, because he wants God to see that he deserves better or perhaps eternal life?
Gino to John
I know that John, but you see I just wanted to see what you thought about religions, let me say outside your Jehovah wetness religion. For instance, do you really believe that God created everything in seven days like the Bible says, or do you have some doubts about creation yourself?
John to Gino
There you are you are indeed an atheist and next thing you are going to say to me, that through evolution and the forces of nature everything created itself and that we are monkeys that through evolution have become humans. You know what I mean, monkeys eating bananas, do you see a monkey in yourself and me or do you see a person. Just listen to me Gino, monkeys are monkeys and cannot be anything else, and humans are people just like Adam who was created as a person, like God said in his own image, don’t you see that? 
Here I would like to stop as this post is already long enough, and we will continue this story in our next post called; Preventing a religious argument.   

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Man needs God
Religions discussions
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