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Wednesday, December 22, 2010

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I have to say that I have written a whole chapter all by myself, and it is so boring, I hope my readers will not be bored also, it is too hard to talk forever all by oneself, even if you have millions of things to say, so I have asked my friends Mark, Gino and others to come to a new meeting, in the hope that we may have some religious discussions, in the hope that we can come up with a new strategy, and also find a way how to say religious things that do not sound so boring.
So, now I am waiting for my friends to come, while I am getting a few things together, so that we may have a few nibbles and a drink during or after the meeting; you see I do not want them to feel pushed too much about these religious discussions, as they don’t seem to volunteer easily to talk seriously about religion, so I want them to feel more like we are here to enjoy ourselves first of all, as you all know friends are friends just because they enjoy each other company.
At last my friends have arrived, so I better meet them at the front door, so that they may feel welcome. I can see five of them, there is Mark, Gino, Don, Bill and another bloke that I have only seen around sometimes with Gino, so I wonder what type of person he may be. Anyhow we greeted each other as often friends do and Gino introduces his friend Peter to me, he seems a decent sort of bloke to me, so I hope he is also interested in religious talks.
So, we go inside while chatting about many unimportant things, asking how we feel about this and that, and what we have been doing lately. We sit down around this table that I have made ready, and while I offer them a drink they all start nibbling from whatever was on the table, we were all relaxed and enjoying each other company for a while. But then Gino seemed to remember the reason why we were there and asked; Fran have you written or done anything about those religious beliefs that you have?
Of course I have! I said.
To tell you the truth I have written a whole chapter all by myself, which I am going to let you read it if you want later on. Now I want you to know that for me that has been very hard to write, just because I would have felt better if we had had some discussions on those religious subjects I wrote, then writing all that staff by myself has become too monotonous and boring, so I really wish that we had discussed those religious things before I wrote them down, as that would makes me feel better.
Anyhow, now you are here and we may discuss some of those religious things together.
If I remember right a while ago we were discussing the very end of the Bible, which seems to forbid any change of what the Bible says, and therefore any change in religious beliefs; have you formed any opinion on that since then? Or what have you found out that may be able to help me write my religious theory?
Well; no I haven’t thought much about that; Gino said.
The same here; Mark said, however I have been thinking about the religious situation of today, so, I would like to say what I think.
We all agreed to hear him; and this is what Mark said.
Mark Speech.
Let us stop just for a moment to think about nowadays religious matters, as this is a very important part of our lives to know, and it would be great if we could find some answers to the questions raised from our fried Fran.
My own personal experience nowadays leads me to think that things are changing including religious things, perhaps slowly but they are changing, it has got to be that way, since a lot of things have changed especially the last 50 years.
When I was a teenager I remember that the Bible was called the Sacred Scripture, and it would be a sin for anyone other than the priest to handle it or read from it. Today the Bible is available to the public and also some other religious books. So, it is only a matter of time before the public at large learns what could be true and good to believe; and what doesn’t make sense and therefore one should not bother about it.
You see, today most household have a computer, which helps in many ways to learn new things at a very fast pace indeed; so, the computer is going to accelerate the changes it is obvious, it is going to be just like other great events that have happened in the past, whenever there is something that radically changes the way of thinking or doing things, great changes follow it is inevitable.
Now, let us take a look at those religious discussion groups on the Internet:
There are perhaps hundreds if not thousands of groups; they are all discussing their own agenda, I don’t want to talk about all those groups, as here we want to talk about religious things mostly. As you all know there are some groups which talk only about religion and their own beliefs; there are groups discussing philosophy, which in a way could include religion; there are groups discussing evolution including creation versus evolution; and there is also a large group called, Atheism versus Christianity.
Of all these groups, Atheism versus Christianity is the largest group, the atheists don’t believe about God, so they do not believe in any religions and would like to see religions disappear.
The Atheists group is formed largely from well educated people, and therefore, when a discussion arises they are able to put a strong case about their non beliefs, so the followers of religious groups, which are a large part uneducated, so, they are left in a disadvantaged position. This may give rise to the believers losing faith and moving away from their own religions.
My views are these: As the Atheists as a whole does not see that if they destroy religions, they are going to create much bigger problems in the whole world.
This makes me think about those differences of opinion, so I believe that atheist are making a mistake in believing that the world maybe better off without religions, because looking at the whole situation, I have to say that God and man need each other, and that is the reason why religions need to exist. So, what would you say if I said that man needs God and God needs man, would you agree with me?
We all said in a way or another, of course we agree with you, your reasoning makes things very clear. Then, I said; I will take note of your speech and if you don’t mind I will write it down in my religious writings.
Gino was also impressed about Mark speech, and then he wanted to say something himself:
And this is what he said.
Gino speech:
Mark has really made a well thought speech and I agree with him, well done Mark!
As for my part I should say that I have been thinking about what we said about the end of the Bible when we met last time; but I have not done anything at all, although every now and then with my friends here Don, Bill and Peter we mention it, without having any real deep conversation about the subject at all, as we think that it is too hard to come to any conclusion.
Look Fran, I really thought that you would give up about writing this religious theory of yours; you see it is very hard to do something that other people have tried to ignore for thousands of years, whether it was through fear or lack of knowledge. Beside that you and I, including our friends here today, we are not what you would call well educated people. I know we know enough how to write something and be understood, but that may not be good enough to write what you want to try to write, and I should add that religions is a hard subject to deal with.
Then he looked at me and he said; now I see that you look disappointed, since you are keen to write your religious theory, no matter how much troubles you may be getting yourself in, so, I will try to learn a bit more about religious things and next time we meet I may be able to say something more positive, perhaps we may have to start from the very beginning of the Bible; and while we study we should ask ourselves whether the meanings are clear enough to us, we need also to question the ways that the bible is explained to the public, which seems to me that those preachers want to impose their ways of thinking, whether their interpretation of the Bible is right or wrong, so, we are going to look if there are another meaning to what we see at first glance. I think I have said enough today and I hope you agree with me.
We all said, yes.
This is how this meeting ended, because after Gino speech we just chatted about other matters that would not interest the readers here.
After we enjoyed ourselves chatting and having a few drinks my friends departed, so I was left all by myself to decide what I had to do next, so, I thought I better do what I was doing before the meeting.
I thought that perhaps a prayer to God could help, and I prayed God for guidance.
Our Father in heaven, to you I turn God Most High, and I start to pray with all my heart, my soul and my mind. In the name of The-Father The-Son and The-Holy Spirit I am praying, hoping that the ever present guiding force of the Holy Spirit on earth you would guide me; So that, I would be able to write my religious writing as humanly as possible according to your will. Father, hear my prayer and guide me! Amen.
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