Prayers and discussions
We need to pray
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Prayers and discussions
We need to pray God
Welcome
to our hub (20), Prayers and discussions
May
God guide and help me say the right religious things?
Dear
readers, in our quest to find the right religious way, in these religious
issues that we are writing here, we have to say, that every time that we review
and edit these religious writings, there is something new that we could add to
it, because our point of view has become modified from what is happening around
us. You see, our point of view becomes modified also, from what we have learned
in our study of religions, since this writings of Prayers for reconciliation
could be said that it is a study of religions as well. Therefore, we who believe
in God and are glad to say so; but even with all our religious beliefs, it
might still happen that sometimes we don’t know if we are doing the right
religious things, so, we keep looking for an answer to our problems that we
would like to solve. But, whenever there are doubts in our minds and we happen
to ask ourselves whether we are doing the right thing, when this happens the
best thing to do is to pray God to help us overcome our doubts, so, I am
praying God for help and guidance here under, because we need to pray God to
write about God things.
Our
Father in heaven, to you I turn God Most High, and I start to pray with all my
heart, my soul and my mind. In the name of The-Father The-Son and The-Holy
Spirit I am praying, hoping that the ever present guiding force of the Holy
Spirit on earth (God) would guide me; So that, I would be able to write my
religious writing as humanly as possible according to God’s will. Father, hear
my prayer and guide me! Amen.
As
you can see dear readers we are praying God, and with prayers in our heart and
beliefs in our minds we (I and my religious friends) are going to try to find a
way how to achieve what seems impossible to achieve today, we say impossible to
achieve because some religious fanatics wage war using religion, which is
really shocking to say the least; their actions also increases the atheists
attacks on religions, as they don’t believe in God and any religions and when
we see these things happen, we have to admit that we cannot blame the atheist
completely, because what they are proposing is the lesser harmful way for
humanity. Anyhow we believe that through discussions with our religious friends
and prayers to God, we might be able to come up with a good suggestion that
could solve some the present religious problem, and also hope to minimise those
problems in the future.
Anyhow,
today I am waiting for my religious friends to arrive, so that we may have an
open discussion about religions in general.
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Our religious discussions
I
have not seen my religious friends for a while; so, I have been thinking about
many things, and at the same time, I have written a religious chapter all by
myself, and it is so boring. I hope that my readers will not be bored also when
they read it. I have found out that, it is too hard to talk forever all by
oneself, you know; even if you have millions of things to say. So, I have asked
my friends Mark, Gino and others to come to a new friendly religious meeting;
in the hope that we may come up with a new religious strategy, and also find a
way how to write religious issues that do not sound so boring.
Now
I am waiting for my friends to come, while I am getting a few things together,
so that we may have a few nibbles and a drink during or after the meeting; you
see I do not want them to feel pushed too much about these religious matters,
as they don’t seem to volunteer easily to talk seriously about religion, so I
want them to feel that we are here to enjoy ourselves first of all.
At
last my friends have arrived, so I better meet them at the front door; so that
they may feel welcome. I can see five of them, there is Mark, Gino, Don, Bill
and another bloke that I have only seen around sometimes with Gino, so I wonder
what type of person he might be. Anyhow we greeted each other as often friends
do and Gino introduces his friend Peter to me, he seems a decent sort of bloke
to me, so I hope he is also interested in religious talks.
So,
we go inside while chatting about many unimportant things, asking how we feel
about this and that, and what we have been doing lately. We sit down around
this table that I have made ready, and while I offer them a drink they all
start nibbling from whatever was on the table, we were all relaxed and enjoying
each other company for a while. But then Gino seemed to remember the reason why
we were there and asked; Frank, have you written or done anything about those
religious beliefs of yours?
Of
course I have! I said. And then I said;
To
tell you the truth I have written a whole religious chapter all by myself,
which I am going to let you read it, if you want to read it later on. Now I
want you to know that for me it has been very hard to write that religious
stuff, just because I would have felt better if we had had some discussions on
those religious subjects I have written, and then it becomes too monotonous and
boring, so I really wish that we had discussed a few things before I wrote them
down, as that would have made me feel better.
Anyhow, now that you are here we may discuss a few religious issues
together.
If
I remember right a while ago we were discussing the very end of the Bible,
which seems to forbid any change of what the Bible says, and therefore any
change in religious beliefs; if one believes that not only the end of the Bible
cannot be changed, but also anything in the Bible cannot be changed. Here I
would like to ask, have you formed any opinion on that subject since then? Or
what have you found out that may be able to help me write my religious theory?
(My
friends short answer.)
Well;
no I haven’t thought much about that, because of all those things that are
happening and some of those things seem to involve religions; Gino said.
The
same here; Mark said, however I have been thinking about the religious
situation of today, so, I would like to say what I think.
We
all agreed to hear him; and this is what Mark said.
Religious changes ahead
Mark
sees changes ahead.
Here we are talking about religions. So, let us stop just for
a moment to think about nowadays religious matters, as this is very important
to know; because it affects a large part of our life religious and otherwise,
so, it would be great if we could find some answers to the questions raised
from our fried Frank. But, as Gino has pointed out to us, there are also a lot
of things happening out there that need to be taken into consideration.
My own personal experience these days, leads me to think that most things are changing including religious things, perhaps slowly but they are changing anyhow, it has got to be that way, since a lot of things have changed especially the last 50 years. Now to make it easier to understand these issues, I would like to talk about the religions in the past, since this is what we were going to talk about here, and then briefly say something about what is happening today.
When I was a teenager I remember that the Bible was called the Sacred Scripture, and it would be a sin for anyone other than the priest to handle it or read from the Bible.
My own personal experience these days, leads me to think that most things are changing including religious things, perhaps slowly but they are changing anyhow, it has got to be that way, since a lot of things have changed especially the last 50 years. Now to make it easier to understand these issues, I would like to talk about the religions in the past, since this is what we were going to talk about here, and then briefly say something about what is happening today.
When I was a teenager I remember that the Bible was called the Sacred Scripture, and it would be a sin for anyone other than the priest to handle it or read from the Bible.
All
this has changed, and today the Bible is available to the public; so, anyone
can handle the Bible and read it; also some other religious books are available
to the public to read. So, today it is only a matter of time before the public
at large learns what is written in the whole Bible and what could be true and
good for the people to believe; and what doesn’t make sense and therefore one
should not bother about it.
Now let us talk about our present times. As you know, today most household have a computer, which helps in many ways to learn new things at a very fast pace indeed; so, the computer is going to accelerate the changes it is obvious, it is going to be just like other great events that have happened in the past, whenever there is something that radically changes the way of thinking or doing things, great changes follow this first change it is inevitable.
Now, let us take a look at discussion groups on the Internet:
There are perhaps hundreds if not thousands of groups; they are all discussing their own agenda, I don’t want to talk about all those groups, as here we want to talk about religious groups or religious issues mostly. As you all know there are some groups which talk only about religion and their own beliefs; there are groups discussing philosophy, which in a way could and would include religion because religion is part of life; there are groups discussing evolution including creation versus evolution; and there is also a large group called, Atheism versus Christianity.
Of all these groups, Atheism versus Christianity is one of the largest groups if not the largest, the atheists don’t believe about God, so they do not believe in any religions and would like to see religions disappear. Of course, because today there are some terrorist news about religious people, these atheists have a strong point to argue against the existence of God.
The Atheists group is formed largely from well educated people, and therefore, when a discussion arises they are able to put a strong case about their non-beliefs, so the followers of religious groups, which are usually less educated, are left in a disadvantaged position. Because the believer feels disadvantaged, it may give rise to the believers losing faith and moving away from their own original religions.
My views are these: As the Atheists as a whole does not see that if they destroy people beliefs and religions, they are very likely going to create many problems in the whole world.
Now let us talk about our present times. As you know, today most household have a computer, which helps in many ways to learn new things at a very fast pace indeed; so, the computer is going to accelerate the changes it is obvious, it is going to be just like other great events that have happened in the past, whenever there is something that radically changes the way of thinking or doing things, great changes follow this first change it is inevitable.
Now, let us take a look at discussion groups on the Internet:
There are perhaps hundreds if not thousands of groups; they are all discussing their own agenda, I don’t want to talk about all those groups, as here we want to talk about religious groups or religious issues mostly. As you all know there are some groups which talk only about religion and their own beliefs; there are groups discussing philosophy, which in a way could and would include religion because religion is part of life; there are groups discussing evolution including creation versus evolution; and there is also a large group called, Atheism versus Christianity.
Of all these groups, Atheism versus Christianity is one of the largest groups if not the largest, the atheists don’t believe about God, so they do not believe in any religions and would like to see religions disappear. Of course, because today there are some terrorist news about religious people, these atheists have a strong point to argue against the existence of God.
The Atheists group is formed largely from well educated people, and therefore, when a discussion arises they are able to put a strong case about their non-beliefs, so the followers of religious groups, which are usually less educated, are left in a disadvantaged position. Because the believer feels disadvantaged, it may give rise to the believers losing faith and moving away from their own original religions.
My views are these: As the Atheists as a whole does not see that if they destroy people beliefs and religions, they are very likely going to create many problems in the whole world.
This
makes me think about those differences of opinion, and even though today there
are these terrible news of the killing of innocent people from the Islamic
State, and for these reason the atheist could be attacking religions more
often, I believe that atheist would be making a mistake in believing that the
world may be better off without religions altogether. Because looking at the
whole situation, I have to say that God and man need each other, and that is the
reason why religions need to exist.
What
do you say, do you agree with me?
We
all said in a way or another, of course we agree with you, your reasoning makes
things very clear. Then, I said; I will take note of your speech and if you
don’t mind I will write it down in my religious writings. Now, if I remember
right you have said before, that man needs God, and also that God is hope for
those that need hope most, so, I believe in what you have said as well.
Gino
was also impressed and wanted to say something himself:
And
this is what Gino said.
Gino
sees problems ahead
Let
me go back to one of our previous meetings; where we were talking about the end
of the Bible; I want to say here, I have been thinking about what we said about
the end of the Bible, in one of our meetings; but I have not done anything at
all, although every now and then with my friends here Don, Bill and Peter we
have mentioned it, without having any real deep conversation about the subject,
sometimes I feel a bit worried about all these religious issues.
Look
Frank, I really thought that you would give up writing this religious theory of
yours; you see, it is very hard to do something that other people have tried to
ignore for thousands of years, whether it was through fear or lack of
knowledge. Beside that you and I, including our friends here today, we are not
what you would call highly educated people. I know that we know how to
understand just about anything written, and understand perhaps better than
somebody else, because we apply our own reasoning mind properly when we have
to, we are also able to write something well enough and be understood, but that
may not be good enough to write what you want to try to write here. You see,
even the religious writers try hard to avoid any religious changes for fear of
being ridiculed, I hope you see what I mean.
Now,
I see that you look disappointed, Frank!? Since you are keen to write your
religious theory, no matter how much troubles you may be getting yourself into,
so, I will try to learn a bit more about religious things and next time we meet
I may be able to say something more positive.
For
the time being I would suggest that perhaps we may have to start reading the
Bible again and again from the very beginning; and while we read and study the
Bible we should ask ourselves whether the meanings are clear enough and are
they in line with what we have been told they mean? Now, if we believe that
there is another meaning to what we have been told, and also what we see at
first glance. I think that this is worth to try; of course we also need to look
at what is happening today in the world, especially those things that may be
said to have a link to religions, but we are going to discuss those things next
time, since I need to think about it before I form my own opinion; that is all
I want to say for now about religions today.
This
is how this religious meeting ended, because after Gino speech we just chatted
about other matters that would not and could not interest our religious readers
here.
After
we enjoyed ourselves chatting and having a few drinks my friends departed, so I
was left all by myself to decide what I had to do next, so, I thought I better
do what I was doing before the meeting.
And
again I thought that perhaps a prayer to God could help, and again I prayed God
for guidance.
Prayers
for Reconciliation, is to be continued;
Next
time with, WHAT SORT OF GUIDANCE WE NEED FROM GOD.
This
is all for this article folks, may God bless us all?
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