Thursday, October 24, 2024

Israel exodus from Egypt

MAN, NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws.  

Our views about the Israel exodus from Egypt. 



In the ancient world, people needed to believe more in religions for several reasons, also their God's had to be powerful, and Yahweh the God of Israel was very powerful, as you can see from this photo that has been taken from a film of the Red Sea crossing. but while it is great to believe in the power of Almighty God, it may give rise to doubts, whether this event has really happened. Because the Israelite people had doubts on their minds, even after this event. So, how much we should believe I do not know.   

Welcome to our article, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws

May God guide and help me to say the right things?

Dear readers, in this blog we will review religious events that have shaped western religion. So, we want to review old events to refresh our memories, in this article we will talk about, Israel exodus from Egypt, which is an important event as written in the Bible.

In the Old Testament according to the Bible, Moses was to be killed from the Egyptians when he was born, but his mother abandoned him on the river Nile hoping for a miracle, and the miracle happened because he was saved from the river Nile from an Egyptian princess that had no children, he grew and learned in the Egyptian court the Egyptian’s ways, and it was okay. 

But one day he was attracted to his people, and he learned that he was an Israelite and not an Egyptian. Anyhow, he did something bad, and the Egyptian Pharaoh banned him from Egypt into the Sinai desert. So, he went in the desert thinking about his people and walking towards Mount Sinai, he did not know that he had been selected by God to be the Hebrews leader that would lead the Hebrews back to the Promised Land, which God had given to Abraham their forbear.

One day Moses felt the need to go up Mount Sinai to investigate what was there, since he was seeing signs, so, he went up Mount Sinai and saw a burning bush, but this burning bush was different from a normal burning bush, because while it was burning it did not burn out, a voice from this burning bush told Moses; stop where you are and take your shoes off you are on sacred land; this was the voice of God who appeared in the form of a burning bush and spoke to Moses; God said that he had heard the children of Israel laments and prayers to him, so, he wanted to help them to be free from the Egyptian bondage.

Now, because the Israelites were praying to the God of Abraham, for this reason, God ordered Moses to go back to Egypt to free his people from the Pharaoh slavery. Moses was not sure this was a good idea since he had been banned from Egypt. So, Moses asked God, who I should say has sent me to the children of Israel and to the Pharaoh. God said, I am who I am, and tell the children of Israel and say that Yahweh the God of your Father has sent me. So, Moses went back to Egypt and after several arguments with the Pharaoh and divine intervention from Yahweh God, in the end Moses finally succeeded to lead his Hebrew people out of Egypt.

As they left Egypt, the Pharaoh tried once more to stop them with his army. But Yahweh God helped the Israelite cross the Red Sea as if it was dry land, and then the water of the Red Sea came back and drowned the Pharaoh army that was trying to stop them leaving Egypt. This is what is written in the Bible.

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On their way back to the Promised Land. 

On their way back to the Promised Land, the Israelite went near Mount Sinai, since Yahweh God wanted Moses to go back to him up there, and Moses went again up Mount Sinai, where he met God again and God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.

Now, while Moses was on Mount Sinai waiting for God to give him the Ten Commandments, he stayed up there for a long time. While he was up there, those people that had left Egypt to go to the Promised Land started to have different thoughts; they wanted a god like the Egyptians had and they made up a golden statue of a bull, this action made Yahweh resentful of this god statue; because he wanted the people of Israel to believe only in him, as we can see from the first three commandments that he gave Moses.

Of course, Yahweh God punished them for this event. But this event brings doubts in our minds, so, we must ask, why the people of Israel did this, there is something wrong here, because if they had seen what we are being told they saw; then anyone that had witnessed those events could not doubt Yahweh power for a moment. Therefore, there are reasons to believe that something is not the way it has been written in the Bible.

During the time that the Israelites were travelling in the desert to reach the Promised Land, is said that Moses spoken with God several times. From these meetings with God, and from those happenings that took place during this voyage from Egypt to the Promised Land, Moses and his brother Aaron wrote and laid down the first part of the Mosaic Laws, that would guide the Hebrews from there on. During this period Yahweh gave Moses many laws the Hebrew were divided in tribes and these formed the 12 tribes of Israel, which are the families of the 12 children of Jacob also called Israel; because Israel is the name that Yahweh God gave Jacob, in a prior event that happened when Jacob was alive, God said to Jacob from now on you are Israel. That is how Jacob is known as Israel. 

Now we are going to talk about the tribes of Israel; but we want to point out to our readers that we are not only writing all this Bible’s things to tell you what the Bible says, because we are also writing this to point out that most times people do what they must do according to the times and places they happen to live in. So, we believe that what took place in the Sinai desert including the Mosaic Laws; it was something that at that time and place needed to be done the way it was done. About God being the main player and telling Moses everything that needed to be done, we are not sure about that.

I believe that it was more likely that Moses and his brother Aaron thought that it was necessary to separate the tribes, than God instructing them to do it, since they were the leaders of the Israelite and had to control the people; we need also to say that whether there was Yahweh God that was talking to Moses every time is doubtful. Anyhow, now we want to talk about how the Israelite were divided and became the 12 tribes of Israel.

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 The 12 tribes if Israel. 

The Israelites were divided in 12 tribes one for each family of the children of Jacob, (Israel).

The 12 children of Israel were: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Benjamin, Zebulon, Joseph, Dan, Asher, Naphtali, and Gad; these were the names of the 12 children of Israel, and every one of them had their own family and became one tribe. Thus, was Yahweh order through Moses. So, the 12 tribes of Israel were independent of each other; but they had to follow God’s order that went through Moses and his brother Aaron of the house of Levi.

The Bible says that God spoke with Moses many times saying to Moses, go and tell the house of Jacob what they had to do. Now through this talking, new laws and ways of living were described to the sons of Israel, this is how the Mosaic Laws were formed. Quoting example from the Bible:

Quote 1: Leviticus 18;

Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:

‘Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them:

“I am Yahweh your God. You must not behave as they do in Egypt where once you lived; you must not behave as they do in Canaan where I am taking you. You must not follow their laws. You must follow my customs and keep my laws; by them you must lead your life.”

Quote 2: Leviticus 19;

Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:

‘Speak to the whole community of the sons of Israel and say to them:

“Be holy, for I, Yahweh your God, am holy.

Each of you must respect his father and mother.

And you must keep my Sabbaths; I am Yahweh your God.

Do not turn to idols and cast no gods of metal. I am Yahweh your God.

(Anyhow, I am using these quotes as examples in Leviticus between Moses and God).

As I have said God was speaking to Moses many times in Exodus and Leviticus, but these talks become doubtful, because if these meetings with God had taken place, then the Israelites would have been more God conscious of Yahweh their God.

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The Bible doubtful possibilities written. 

In the Bible there are some doubtful possibilities written

There are a lot of good things written in the Bible, but there are things that don’t add up and this is one of them.

When we read the Bible specially Leviticus Moses and his brother Aaron, spoke with God many times, as if they were normal happenings. But what I cannot understand is this: if Moses was speaking with God many times, as the Bible says, it follows that the Israelites should have known that, and they should have followed whatever commands were given to them, since they had witnessed those events. 

We are saying this because, the story of the Israelite tells us that they had always doubts in their minds; so, they were arguing about the reasons why they were in the desert living a hard life, as if they had not seen what had happened around them.

What we want to say here is this; we believe that the Israelite of those days, did not see or hear God, otherwise they would have had no doubts about God or Moses. For this reason, what has been written in the Bible about God talking to Moses, might not have taken place as much as they claim. So, everything was added later when the Bible was written and re-written.

This makes me believe that religions are written according to the times when they are written, because we cannot explain it, in any other way. So, if today we want to re-write religions, we must write them according to our times.

Anyhow, in our next article, we will continue to talk about the Bible, because the Bible was also the Israelite history book, in ancient times history and religion were written together, because whatever happened was thought to be religious, so, in our next article we will be talking about, The Bible is The Hebrew History

 This is all, to see more click on this link, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws,

May God bless us all.

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Thursday, September 26, 2024

Talking about man creation

MAN, NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religions could be man made

Our religious views about the creation of man. 


In the Bible it says that God created Adam from plain dirt, then he created Eva and placed them in the garden of Eden. In the picture above, Eva is about to take one of the forbidden fruits from the tree of knowledge, which was the tree that God had forbidden them to eat. because of this disobedience, God banned them from the garden, and they had to find their own ways how to feed themselves. 

Welcome to our article, Religion about man creation

May God guide and help me to say the right things?

Dear readers, these articles are a study of religions and how they serve humanity, and this article is about our religious views about the creation of mankind. 

As we have said in our previous articles, there are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made; in other words, they are an invention that mankind made a long time ago. So, today we are going to talk about how we believe the creation of mankind could have happened, since our friends Gino and Peter have expressed their doubts, about God being able to create man from plain dirt, therefore, we want to talk about this religious issue.

Anyhow, I start feeling that my friends have had enough about talking religions, so, they wish that we change subject and be like other people; but I still want to write about religion, and I need to continue to talk to them, because I feel better when other people agree with me about religions issues.

So, I must wait for the opportunity to talk about religions to my friends. I know that I can read articles from the media to give me an idea what to say, but that is not as good as when I am talking to my friends, because when I am talking to my friends, at least I believe that what I write about my friends speech is brand new, so, it is harder for Hub pages to find that my articles have duplicate content, which is so frustrating; when you know that you have written that article for the first time. 

So, let us talk about it, because in my case writing religious articles is even worse, because religious discussions tent to say the same things again, it is only natural that they do this. You see, if you have gone to mass at the Roman Catholic Church, I am sure that you have noted that the mass is the same every time, even the sermons have their yearly cycle, so, religion is a repetitive subject where it is hard to avoid repetitions, I hope you see what I mean when I speak of duplicate content.

Anyhow, this does not mean that religious articles can be allowed to have duplicate content, I want only to point it out how hard it is to avoid it. I have told my friends what happens in Hub pages about duplicate content and all they came up with was; you have to try harder to avoid that, perhaps you can quote what we say, so that even if we are saying the same things, it is not you that is saying it. 

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Some friendly religious talks

It happened to me the other day, when Mark, Gino and Peter were having this conversation in my presence and Mark was saying to Gino.

You said to Frank that God cannot make man from dirt because that would be hard for God to do. Now, what you have said makes me wonder whether you can tell us more about the way that you see the creation of man, and about other creations that happen in the Bible.

Gino.

No, Mark I don’t have much to say about the Bible creation, except that if you think about it, there are things that don’t make sense the way they have been written in the Bible, because if we use our logic reasoning mind, they are impossible to achieve even for a real God, provided there is a God. Therefore, that is the reason that I believe the Jews made up their God so powerful that could make living people from plain dirt.

Therefore, the Jews invented their own powerful God, their own ways and for their own needs and they did it in such a way that this God was more powerful of any other God, since their God could even make man from plain dirt. I hope you see what I mean.

Mark.

Of course, I see what you are saying Gino! But what you are saying opens a new way of thinking, if we are willing to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You see, if we admit that man was not created by God from dirt, then also other creations may not true, or they are partly true, therefore, we must discuss it many times before we can reach a conclusion, it also opens the whole Bible to discussions, as the Bible may not be the word of God, or even inspired by God, as Frank said in one of his articles; Religions are man-made, perhaps we have to agree with Frank description of religions in this case, don’t you agree?

Gino.

Of course, I agree with Frank’s descriptions, because I am trying to say the same thing.

Here Peter comes in saying.

Look I and Gino agree that man cannot be made from plain dirt, even if God tries to make him; thus, the whole thing cannot be true as our own human understanding tells us. Now, if we take away that God is omnipotent and can do anything, which is how the Jews wanted God to be, then, God must follow the physical laws that exist in the universe; then the possibilities of God making man from dirt, is almost nil and therefore there has got to be another way. You see, that is the reason why we said what we have said in the first place, about the Jews inventing their own God, just the way they needed God.

Mark.

I understand what you two are saying, I was worried that you two had become atheists, like our friend John was saying the other day, when he heard what you said. Perhaps as your beliefs stand, you may be agnostic rather than atheists.

Frank (me):

What I heard from your religious talks today, can help me write how some people see religions today; it opens also the way for religious discussions, where I can learn something else about your religious views. Anyhow now let us enjoy ourselves the normal way I said.

Now that I have learned that I cannot ask my friends to talk about religious issues all the time, I must find my own way how to collect religious information that I am going to talk about, so, I am going to read more religious books, and search for religious articles on the Internet, then write my own articles.

Therefore, I have made up my mind that I must find my own way, how to research for other religious articles, since I cannot rely on my friends too much for writing my articles. Anyhow, I start seeing God in a different way, so I believe that we need to modify religions. Meanwhile we are continuing our religious articles, so, see you in our next article, where we are going to write about the Bible, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws

This is all, to see more click on this link, Religion about man creation.

May God bless us all.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024

All religions could be manmade.

MAN, NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religions could be man made
 
THERE ARE MANY RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD, STARTING FROM THE BIBLE. 


We need to say that there are many religions in the world, and there are many books written about religion. The largest group of religions derives from the Bible. We know that the Bible is the most religious book read in the world, it has been translated and printed in many languages, it is also the most important religious book in the western world, there are other religions and books that derive from the Bible. For instance, The Koran comes from the Bible, it is mentioned several times in the Koran that God Allah is the same God of Abraham and the Israelite, the Muslims are supposed to be the children of Ishmael the first son of Abraham born from his maidservant. At least this is what some people believe.   

Welcome to our article, Religions could be man made

May God guide and help me to say the right things?

Dear readers, we want to know everything about religions, and we would like to know whether religions came about because there have been signs from heaven, or man made everything up. Today it is easier for us to know more things about religions, so, let us see what we have found.

There are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made, we say that they could be man-made, because we need to give the benefit of doubts.

Now, if we assume that religious are man-made, we need to search for the proof to establish that. Because that is hard to achieve, we may have to assume that they are manmade; then, we need to explain religions better and in different ways, we need to explain why they have been made up the way that they have been made up.

But religions might not be completely made up, because, if we consider the spiritual side there must be something in it. You see, all religions have a different spiritual side, so, we must assume that there is a spiritual side, and from this spiritual side people have made up our religious beliefs.

So, we believe that we know, why religions have been made up the way they are today, and in the future, we must explain religions better, if we want religions to continue to serve humanity, as they have done for thousands of years.

In our previous religious discussions, we have seen that there are many religions in the world; therefore, for that reason we may have to assume that religions are manmade. This does not mean that God does not exist, but it means that we should not follow blindly all religious doctrine whatever they say. Therefore, we must use our common sense and check that out, if what is being said may or may not be true.

Now, if we are talking about the Bible, the first thing that comes to my mind, is whether the seven days of at the beginning of the Bible, were seven days or thousands of years. Then, we want to prove that what is written in the Bible is the truth, which might not be. Look at our article, Flood in the days of Noah, where we have proof that the flood was not as universal as the writers of the Bible want us to believe. We believe that the flood happened, but it did not cover the entire world.

Therefore, it is time that mankind wakes up and sees the truth, I know that this is going to hurt many believers, but the truth is that man wrote the Bible, perhaps it was God inspiration at the beginning; but then they wrote and re-wrote the Bible, knowing that if they wrote it in a certain way, they could control the believer under them. This is what I believe myself, but then I might be wrong. So, I want to talk to our religious friends to see what they think about it.

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 Talking about religious issues. 

The other day I met my friend Mark, and we talked about these religious issues, in our talks we concluded that we don’t like the way the Bible is being explained to the believers; today there are things that seem wrong. With this view in mind, we did not mean that the Bible is wrong, but the way that people use the bible might be wrong.

You see, there is the fact that when the Bible was written for the first time, everything was different from today, therefore, the Bible was written according to those time to guide the people of those times, therefore, if the Bible was to be written today, it would have been written in a different way.

Now, keeping in mind what we have said, I and Mark believe that it is necessary to write a few articles to show what we mean about criticizing the Bible, when we believe there are issues that don’t agree with our understanding of the Bible. Here we have to admit that this religious issue worries me; You see, most people don’t like to criticize the Bible openly, but it is becoming necessary to do it, because what we are being told could be wrong.

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 Religious discussions with friends. 

Religious discussions with Gino and Peter

A few days after I talked to Mark, I encountered Gino and Peter; this is Peter that said he believed in religions very much like Gino, we have met Peter before, where he said that there must be another explanation why the Bible claims that man was made from plain dirt.

Anyhow, after chatting about a few happy events, we talked about religions, and asked them whether they had given any thought about what we were discussing last time we met.

Well they said, we have indeed thought about it and we still believe that there must be another explanation, why the Bible says that man was made from plain dirt. Yes, indeed there can be more than another explanation, it is likely that there are several explanations, which falls in line with what we have been thinking that religions are man-made. Now, we must look at the reasons why man wanted that God would create man from plain dirt.

As we have said, about the creation of man before, man cannot be created from dirt, because even God has got to be subject to the laws of nature, because God first and foremost uses the natural ways to create anything, we believe that this is God ways; then we want to point out that there was no need for God to make us from clay; because we were there in the form of animals.  

But the ancient Jews, wanted that their God more powerful than all the other gods put together, so, they gave their God this extra power, and their God was so powerful that could even create a man from plain dirt.

Here Peter comes in and says do you see what we mean? They (the Jews) wanted this Super God to have so much powers that was even able to create a man from dirt.

Can you just imagine how powerful a god must be, since this God could create a man from plain dirt? He would indeed be Omnipotent and nothing and no one could we more powerful than this God, we hope that you see what we mean.

Perhaps this idea came about when man started to make statues, and, in their fantasies, wished that those statues were real people or animals. Therefore, they started to think that God could be able to do that, and thus, the whish that God could make those statues become alive was born.

I said, I see what you mean, but even this is not enough for a real explanation.

Thanks for trying anyhow.

This is all what was said about religions at this encounter.

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 What we should believe about religions. 

During our religious discussions, we are having difficulty in proving that God created life and everything else in the world; and then, it becomes even worse when we want to prove the existence of God, because even God existence is put to the test. Sometimes I start thinking that the atheists might be right, when they say that there is no god. But God and religions are the fundamental rules that in a way or another guarantees justice; I hope you see what I mean?

There is also the fact, that I cannot explain to myself everything about life, therefore, I believe that there is a god because there is life; and also, for most people if there is no god there is no hope, or meaning about our lives.

Can you imagine that there are no gods, and people that happen to suffer in this world cannot even think of something that gives them hope, what sort of world is this? Would these people that find life hard despair even more?

I know that we have called this hub, Religions could be manmade, but this does not mean that there must not be a god in any shape or form. Anyhow, there are reasons to believe that religions are manmade, but there is also the possibility that God exists, and God is life, as we have explained in our article, God exists because life exists.

Here I want to paste an article I found on the internet, that shows you what other people think about God.

Anyhow, since God can be an invention of our mind, I am going to write this theory, where I am going to describe how I see God.

 I believe that we have said enough in this article, so, see you with our next article, where we are talking about the creation of man, in our article, Religion about man creation

To see more click on this link, Religions could be man made

May God bless us all.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024

Religious discussions four.

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religious discussions four

                   Religious discussions and beliefs of the world. 


I believe that to understand religions we need to study them, and above all we need to discuss our religious beliefs with our friends and other fellow believers. There are many issues to think about when we talk about religions. We can find most of the answers in religious books, we can also find what we want to know on the internet, so, it is a lot easier than before. So, let us discuss our religious views. 

Welcome to our article, Religious discussions four

Dear readers, in this article, we continue to discuss religious issues, which are endless. You see, we can go on forever arguing about what beliefs can be true and what cannot be true, and above all, does God exist, or is God an invention of the human mind? These questions about religions have been there for ages, and they will continue in the future.

It is going to be so, because now that the people can learn faster than before, because the computer makes it easy to find the information we want. So, when the people realize that beside their religious beliefs, there are other religions in the world, they will start to believe that religions are manmade, because there are too many religions. Anyhow, I believe that I will continue to write about religions because I want to suggest a way that will explain religions in a modern way. With this decision in mind, I am going to talk to my religious friends, because their religious views, can help me understand religions better, hoping that we can find answers to our questions.

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Calling on our religious friend. 

Calling on my friend Mark

A few days after the meeting that I have talked about in the last two articles, I decided to visit my friend Mark; I wanted to talk to him alone. So, one day I went to see Mark at his home, knowing that this was his day off from work, when I arrived at his home there was this other friend with him, but anyhow it was John the bloke that read the end of the Bible in the end of time discussions, therefore, the presence of John did not worry me, since John is a religious bloke and religions is what I wanted to talk about. The reason that John was there is that he lives up the street and he was going to the shops past Mark house, he saw that Mark was there and decided to stop and chat with Mark.

So, when I arrived John was about to leave, but my arrival stopped him, as Mark invited me and him back inside to have a cup of tea. We set down and we started to talk, and soon I was talking about a chance meeting that I had with Gino and Peter the previous day and the religious talk that I had with them, so, I told Mark and John in detail what we said.

Gino and Peter believe that man cannot be created from plain dirt, because even God must be subject to the laws of physic or natural laws, and anyhow, if there is a God, then this God will use first the natural laws to create anything.

And then they came up with this theory, the Hebrews wanted their God more powerful than any other God in the world, so, they invented a god so powerful that can create a man from dirt. Now, do you think that it is possible what they have said?

Now if you believe that is possible, then for the first time we have explained what is written in the Bible in a different way. So, from now on, we must look if we can find other religious writings in the Bible that can be explained in a different way, and the reason why they have been written the way they have been written.

Now I want to know what you think about Gino and Peter theory, and how do you think we can use it, to solve the present religious problems in the world. I believe that you know that I want to write this religious theory that can suggest to the world a new way of seeing God and religion, at the same time I know that what I am going to write has got to be a simple religious theory, because it is easier to write it, and it is easier for the people to understand it.

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 John reaction to their theory. 

John reaction to Gino and Peter theory

Dear reader, I didn’t want to involve John in these religious talks, but he was there, so, it would have been rude to get rid of him, and now we must hear what he wants to say.

John answer

I wonder what has gone wrong with Gino and Peter; I don’t know why they are turning atheist or what these days. I am saying that they are turning atheist because that is the only way that I can explain what they have said about the Bible and the creation of man.

Why are they saying that God cannot create man from dirt, when the Bible says that he did? Why they try to find all these excuses to change the meanings of the Bible, when the Bible has been written thousands of years ago from people inspired from God and people believe that it is so?

Why should the Jews invent their God, as if God needs to be invented? They should be ashamed of themselves for saying many profane things about God and the Bible.

I believe that they are being brainwashed from the atheists, otherwise they would not say this. What gave John and Gino this idea that the Jews invented their own God? And then, to show that their God was a super God they made God create man from dirt, when the Bible says that God made man as his own imagine? What has gone wrong with them to turn to atheism.

Here John started to calm down as he had said what he wanted to say about Gino and Peter, so, we knew that soon everything would be normal, and we could have normal discussions. And hear what our friend Mark had to say.

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Discussions with Mark and John. 

After John had said what he wanted to say, Mark started talking.

I believe that you have had an interesting discussion with Gino and Peter about this creation of mankind in the Bible; but I cannot help thinking that Gino specially when he is with Peter, Gino can tell you some extreme views, therefore, to say that Gino is becoming an atheist is wrong, because I know Gino very well and I can tell you that he likes to exaggerate things, I am telling this specially for you John, because you are worried about this religious situation that Gino has got into; do not worry about it my friend, because everything is going to be normal.

John said; okay Mark I can see what you mean; but I believe what I believe and I am not going to hold it back, therefore, when I believe that I have to speak out, I will speak out and this is just what I did, okay. Anyhow, let us hear what you think yourself about what they said.

You see, Gino and Peter have sometimes extreme views, but when reflecting what they have said this time and other things, it is not that extreme, when we use our logic reasoning mind.

So, let us reflect on this situation by using our own imagination; first of all, there have been always extreme beliefs and views in religious circles, if we look back at history we will find that religions have helped mankind in many ways, especially because it brings friendship to people, you see, although religions are made to follow a god with a set of rules, those people that follow them are bound to discuss these things together, and by discussing and sharing them with other people they become friends, this is one of the best sides of religions.

But then on the other side, there are times, when religions have done things so extreme and terrible. Anyhow, you cannot control people just by being nice to them; people need rules to follow and somebody that enforces those rules and that is the reason why religions have been written the way they have been written.

I am sorry to say this John, but what is written in religious books is not always the whole truth. Therefore, if Gino and Peter have gone out of the way of the beliefs that everybody accept, because we have been told what to believe; then Gino and Peter may have got it right this time, because what they are saying is as extreme as the creation of mankind in the Bible, if we use our own logic reasoning mind.

We must keep in mind that there are other major religions that explain the creation of man in different ways; here I am talking about the Indus religions, and I quote.

“Hinduism perceives the whole creation and its cosmic activity as the work of three fundamental forces symbolized by three gods, which constitutes the Hindu Trinity or ‘Trimurti’: Brahma - the creator, Vishnu - the sustainer, and Shiva - the destroyer.” End of quote. It is said that mankind sprang from Brahma body and there were four caste, or type of men. As you can see this is different from the Bible creation.

Here Mark stopped talking about religion, and then started talking about other things.

Now, reflecting on what has been said, I believe that Mark is right. This is one of the reasons why, I like to talk to my friends just to feel more confident.

I believe that I have said enough in this article, so, see you next time, where we are writing about, Religions could be man made

To see more click on this link, Religious discussions four.

May God bless us all.

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