Thursday, September 26, 2024

Talking about man creation

MAN, NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religions could be man made

Our religious views about the creation of man. 


In the Bible it says that God created Adam from plain dirt, then he created Eva and placed them in the garden of Eden. In the picture above, Eva is about to take one of the forbidden fruits from the tree of knowledge, which was the tree that God had forbidden them to eat. because of this disobedience, God banned them from the garden, and they had to find their own ways how to feed themselves. 

Welcome to our article, Religion about man creation

May God guide and help me to say the right things?

Dear readers, these articles are a study of religions and how they serve humanity, and this article is about our religious views about the creation of mankind. 

As we have said in our previous articles, there are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made; in other words, they are an invention that mankind made a long time ago. So, today we are going to talk about how we believe the creation of mankind could have happened, since our friends Gino and Peter have expressed their doubts, about God being able to create man from plain dirt, therefore, we want to talk about this religious issue.

Anyhow, I start feeling that my friends have had enough about talking religions, so, they wish that we change subject and be like other people; but I still want to write about religion, and I need to continue to talk to them, because I feel better when other people agree with me about religions issues.

So, I must wait for the opportunity to talk about religions to my friends. I know that I can read articles from the media to give me an idea what to say, but that is not as good as when I am talking to my friends, because when I am talking to my friends, at least I believe that what I write about my friends speech is brand new, so, it is harder for Hub pages to find that my articles have duplicate content, which is so frustrating; when you know that you have written that article for the first time. 

So, let us talk about it, because in my case writing religious articles is even worse, because religious discussions tent to say the same things again, it is only natural that they do this. You see, if you have gone to mass at the Roman Catholic Church, I am sure that you have noted that the mass is the same every time, even the sermons have their yearly cycle, so, religion is a repetitive subject where it is hard to avoid repetitions, I hope you see what I mean when I speak of duplicate content.

Anyhow, this does not mean that religious articles can be allowed to have duplicate content, I want only to point it out how hard it is to avoid it. I have told my friends what happens in Hub pages about duplicate content and all they came up with was; you have to try harder to avoid that, perhaps you can quote what we say, so that even if we are saying the same things, it is not you that is saying it. 

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Some friendly religious talks

It happened to me the other day, when Mark, Gino and Peter were having this conversation in my presence and Mark was saying to Gino.

You said to Frank that God cannot make man from dirt because that would be hard for God to do. Now, what you have said makes me wonder whether you can tell us more about the way that you see the creation of man, and about other creations that happen in the Bible.

Gino.

No, Mark I don’t have much to say about the Bible creation, except that if you think about it, there are things that don’t make sense the way they have been written in the Bible, because if we use our logic reasoning mind, they are impossible to achieve even for a real God, provided there is a God. Therefore, that is the reason that I believe the Jews made up their God so powerful that could make living people from plain dirt.

Therefore, the Jews invented their own powerful God, their own ways and for their own needs and they did it in such a way that this God was more powerful of any other God, since their God could even make man from plain dirt. I hope you see what I mean.

Mark.

Of course, I see what you are saying Gino! But what you are saying opens a new way of thinking, if we are willing to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You see, if we admit that man was not created by God from dirt, then also other creations may not true, or they are partly true, therefore, we must discuss it many times before we can reach a conclusion, it also opens the whole Bible to discussions, as the Bible may not be the word of God, or even inspired by God, as Frank said in one of his articles; Religions are man-made, perhaps we have to agree with Frank description of religions in this case, don’t you agree?

Gino.

Of course, I agree with Frank’s descriptions, because I am trying to say the same thing.

Here Peter comes in saying.

Look I and Gino agree that man cannot be made from plain dirt, even if God tries to make him; thus, the whole thing cannot be true as our own human understanding tells us. Now, if we take away that God is omnipotent and can do anything, which is how the Jews wanted God to be, then, God must follow the physical laws that exist in the universe; then the possibilities of God making man from dirt, is almost nil and therefore there has got to be another way. You see, that is the reason why we said what we have said in the first place, about the Jews inventing their own God, just the way they needed God.

Mark.

I understand what you two are saying, I was worried that you two had become atheists, like our friend John was saying the other day, when he heard what you said. Perhaps as your beliefs stand, you may be agnostic rather than atheists.

Frank (me):

What I heard from your religious talks today, can help me write how some people see religions today; it opens also the way for religious discussions, where I can learn something else about your religious views. Anyhow now let us enjoy ourselves the normal way I said.

Now that I have learned that I cannot ask my friends to talk about religious issues all the time, I must find my own way how to collect religious information that I am going to talk about, so, I am going to read more religious books, and search for religious articles on the Internet, then write my own articles.

Therefore, I have made up my mind that I must find my own way, how to research for other religious articles, since I cannot rely on my friends too much for writing my articles. Anyhow, I start seeing God in a different way, so I believe that we need to modify religions. Meanwhile we are continuing our religious articles, so, see you in our next article, where we are going to write about the Bible, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws

This is all, to see more click on this link, Religion about man creation.

May God bless us all.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024

All religions could be manmade.

MAN, NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religions could be man made
 
THERE ARE MANY RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD, STARTING FROM THE BIBLE. 


We need to say that there are many religions in the world, and there are many books written about religion. The largest group of religions derives from the Bible. We know that the Bible is the most religious book read in the world, it has been translated and printed in many languages, it is also the most important religious book in the western world, there are other religions and books that derive from the Bible. For instance, The Koran comes from the Bible, it is mentioned several times in the Koran that God Allah is the same God of Abraham and the Israelite, the Muslims are supposed to be the children of Ishmael the first son of Abraham born from his maidservant. At least this is what some people believe.   

Welcome to our article, Religions could be man made

May God guide and help me to say the right things?

Dear readers, we want to know everything about religions, and we would like to know whether religions came about because there have been signs from heaven, or man made everything up. Today it is easier for us to know more things about religions, so, let us see what we have found.

There are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made, we say that they could be man-made, because we need to give the benefit of doubts.

Now, if we assume that religious are man-made, we need to search for the proof to establish that. Because that is hard to achieve, we may have to assume that they are manmade; then, we need to explain religions better and in different ways, we need to explain why they have been made up the way that they have been made up.

But religions might not be completely made up, because, if we consider the spiritual side there must be something in it. You see, all religions have a different spiritual side, so, we must assume that there is a spiritual side, and from this spiritual side people have made up our religious beliefs.

So, we believe that we know, why religions have been made up the way they are today, and in the future, we must explain religions better, if we want religions to continue to serve humanity, as they have done for thousands of years.

In our previous religious discussions, we have seen that there are many religions in the world; therefore, for that reason we may have to assume that religions are manmade. This does not mean that God does not exist, but it means that we should not follow blindly all religious doctrine whatever they say. Therefore, we must use our common sense and check that out, if what is being said may or may not be true.

Now, if we are talking about the Bible, the first thing that comes to my mind, is whether the seven days of at the beginning of the Bible, were seven days or thousands of years. Then, we want to prove that what is written in the Bible is the truth, which might not be. Look at our article, Flood in the days of Noah, where we have proof that the flood was not as universal as the writers of the Bible want us to believe. We believe that the flood happened, but it did not cover the entire world.

Therefore, it is time that mankind wakes up and sees the truth, I know that this is going to hurt many believers, but the truth is that man wrote the Bible, perhaps it was God inspiration at the beginning; but then they wrote and re-wrote the Bible, knowing that if they wrote it in a certain way, they could control the believer under them. This is what I believe myself, but then I might be wrong. So, I want to talk to our religious friends to see what they think about it.

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 Talking about religious issues. 

The other day I met my friend Mark, and we talked about these religious issues, in our talks we concluded that we don’t like the way the Bible is being explained to the believers; today there are things that seem wrong. With this view in mind, we did not mean that the Bible is wrong, but the way that people use the bible might be wrong.

You see, there is the fact that when the Bible was written for the first time, everything was different from today, therefore, the Bible was written according to those time to guide the people of those times, therefore, if the Bible was to be written today, it would have been written in a different way.

Now, keeping in mind what we have said, I and Mark believe that it is necessary to write a few articles to show what we mean about criticizing the Bible, when we believe there are issues that don’t agree with our understanding of the Bible. Here we have to admit that this religious issue worries me; You see, most people don’t like to criticize the Bible openly, but it is becoming necessary to do it, because what we are being told could be wrong.

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 Religious discussions with friends. 

Religious discussions with Gino and Peter

A few days after I talked to Mark, I encountered Gino and Peter; this is Peter that said he believed in religions very much like Gino, we have met Peter before, where he said that there must be another explanation why the Bible claims that man was made from plain dirt.

Anyhow, after chatting about a few happy events, we talked about religions, and asked them whether they had given any thought about what we were discussing last time we met.

Well they said, we have indeed thought about it and we still believe that there must be another explanation, why the Bible says that man was made from plain dirt. Yes, indeed there can be more than another explanation, it is likely that there are several explanations, which falls in line with what we have been thinking that religions are man-made. Now, we must look at the reasons why man wanted that God would create man from plain dirt.

As we have said, about the creation of man before, man cannot be created from dirt, because even God has got to be subject to the laws of nature, because God first and foremost uses the natural ways to create anything, we believe that this is God ways; then we want to point out that there was no need for God to make us from clay; because we were there in the form of animals.  

But the ancient Jews, wanted that their God more powerful than all the other gods put together, so, they gave their God this extra power, and their God was so powerful that could even create a man from plain dirt.

Here Peter comes in and says do you see what we mean? They (the Jews) wanted this Super God to have so much powers that was even able to create a man from dirt.

Can you just imagine how powerful a god must be, since this God could create a man from plain dirt? He would indeed be Omnipotent and nothing and no one could we more powerful than this God, we hope that you see what we mean.

Perhaps this idea came about when man started to make statues, and, in their fantasies, wished that those statues were real people or animals. Therefore, they started to think that God could be able to do that, and thus, the whish that God could make those statues become alive was born.

I said, I see what you mean, but even this is not enough for a real explanation.

Thanks for trying anyhow.

This is all what was said about religions at this encounter.

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 What we should believe about religions. 

During our religious discussions, we are having difficulty in proving that God created life and everything else in the world; and then, it becomes even worse when we want to prove the existence of God, because even God existence is put to the test. Sometimes I start thinking that the atheists might be right, when they say that there is no god. But God and religions are the fundamental rules that in a way or another guarantees justice; I hope you see what I mean?

There is also the fact, that I cannot explain to myself everything about life, therefore, I believe that there is a god because there is life; and also, for most people if there is no god there is no hope, or meaning about our lives.

Can you imagine that there are no gods, and people that happen to suffer in this world cannot even think of something that gives them hope, what sort of world is this? Would these people that find life hard despair even more?

I know that we have called this hub, Religions could be manmade, but this does not mean that there must not be a god in any shape or form. Anyhow, there are reasons to believe that religions are manmade, but there is also the possibility that God exists, and God is life, as we have explained in our article, God exists because life exists.

Here I want to paste an article I found on the internet, that shows you what other people think about God.

Anyhow, since God can be an invention of our mind, I am going to write this theory, where I am going to describe how I see God.

 I believe that we have said enough in this article, so, see you with our next article, where we are talking about the creation of man, in our article, Religion about man creation

To see more click on this link, Religions could be man made

May God bless us all.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024

Religious discussions four.

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religious discussions four

                   Religious discussions and beliefs of the world. 


I believe that to understand religions we need to study them, and above all we need to discuss our religious beliefs with our friends and other fellow believers. There are many issues to think about when we talk about religions. We can find most of the answers in religious books, we can also find what we want to know on the internet, so, it is a lot easier than before. So, let us discuss our religious views. 

Welcome to our article, Religious discussions four

Dear readers, in this article, we continue to discuss religious issues, which are endless. You see, we can go on forever arguing about what beliefs can be true and what cannot be true, and above all, does God exist, or is God an invention of the human mind? These questions about religions have been there for ages, and they will continue in the future.

It is going to be so, because now that the people can learn faster than before, because the computer makes it easy to find the information we want. So, when the people realize that beside their religious beliefs, there are other religions in the world, they will start to believe that religions are manmade, because there are too many religions. Anyhow, I believe that I will continue to write about religions because I want to suggest a way that will explain religions in a modern way. With this decision in mind, I am going to talk to my religious friends, because their religious views, can help me understand religions better, hoping that we can find answers to our questions.

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Calling on our religious friend. 

Calling on my friend Mark

A few days after the meeting that I have talked about in the last two articles, I decided to visit my friend Mark; I wanted to talk to him alone. So, one day I went to see Mark at his home, knowing that this was his day off from work, when I arrived at his home there was this other friend with him, but anyhow it was John the bloke that read the end of the Bible in the end of time discussions, therefore, the presence of John did not worry me, since John is a religious bloke and religions is what I wanted to talk about. The reason that John was there is that he lives up the street and he was going to the shops past Mark house, he saw that Mark was there and decided to stop and chat with Mark.

So, when I arrived John was about to leave, but my arrival stopped him, as Mark invited me and him back inside to have a cup of tea. We set down and we started to talk, and soon I was talking about a chance meeting that I had with Gino and Peter the previous day and the religious talk that I had with them, so, I told Mark and John in detail what we said.

Gino and Peter believe that man cannot be created from plain dirt, because even God must be subject to the laws of physic or natural laws, and anyhow, if there is a God, then this God will use first the natural laws to create anything.

And then they came up with this theory, the Hebrews wanted their God more powerful than any other God in the world, so, they invented a god so powerful that can create a man from dirt. Now, do you think that it is possible what they have said?

Now if you believe that is possible, then for the first time we have explained what is written in the Bible in a different way. So, from now on, we must look if we can find other religious writings in the Bible that can be explained in a different way, and the reason why they have been written the way they have been written.

Now I want to know what you think about Gino and Peter theory, and how do you think we can use it, to solve the present religious problems in the world. I believe that you know that I want to write this religious theory that can suggest to the world a new way of seeing God and religion, at the same time I know that what I am going to write has got to be a simple religious theory, because it is easier to write it, and it is easier for the people to understand it.

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 John reaction to their theory. 

John reaction to Gino and Peter theory

Dear reader, I didn’t want to involve John in these religious talks, but he was there, so, it would have been rude to get rid of him, and now we must hear what he wants to say.

John answer

I wonder what has gone wrong with Gino and Peter; I don’t know why they are turning atheist or what these days. I am saying that they are turning atheist because that is the only way that I can explain what they have said about the Bible and the creation of man.

Why are they saying that God cannot create man from dirt, when the Bible says that he did? Why they try to find all these excuses to change the meanings of the Bible, when the Bible has been written thousands of years ago from people inspired from God and people believe that it is so?

Why should the Jews invent their God, as if God needs to be invented? They should be ashamed of themselves for saying many profane things about God and the Bible.

I believe that they are being brainwashed from the atheists, otherwise they would not say this. What gave John and Gino this idea that the Jews invented their own God? And then, to show that their God was a super God they made God create man from dirt, when the Bible says that God made man as his own imagine? What has gone wrong with them to turn to atheism.

Here John started to calm down as he had said what he wanted to say about Gino and Peter, so, we knew that soon everything would be normal, and we could have normal discussions. And hear what our friend Mark had to say.

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Discussions with Mark and John. 

After John had said what he wanted to say, Mark started talking.

I believe that you have had an interesting discussion with Gino and Peter about this creation of mankind in the Bible; but I cannot help thinking that Gino specially when he is with Peter, Gino can tell you some extreme views, therefore, to say that Gino is becoming an atheist is wrong, because I know Gino very well and I can tell you that he likes to exaggerate things, I am telling this specially for you John, because you are worried about this religious situation that Gino has got into; do not worry about it my friend, because everything is going to be normal.

John said; okay Mark I can see what you mean; but I believe what I believe and I am not going to hold it back, therefore, when I believe that I have to speak out, I will speak out and this is just what I did, okay. Anyhow, let us hear what you think yourself about what they said.

You see, Gino and Peter have sometimes extreme views, but when reflecting what they have said this time and other things, it is not that extreme, when we use our logic reasoning mind.

So, let us reflect on this situation by using our own imagination; first of all, there have been always extreme beliefs and views in religious circles, if we look back at history we will find that religions have helped mankind in many ways, especially because it brings friendship to people, you see, although religions are made to follow a god with a set of rules, those people that follow them are bound to discuss these things together, and by discussing and sharing them with other people they become friends, this is one of the best sides of religions.

But then on the other side, there are times, when religions have done things so extreme and terrible. Anyhow, you cannot control people just by being nice to them; people need rules to follow and somebody that enforces those rules and that is the reason why religions have been written the way they have been written.

I am sorry to say this John, but what is written in religious books is not always the whole truth. Therefore, if Gino and Peter have gone out of the way of the beliefs that everybody accept, because we have been told what to believe; then Gino and Peter may have got it right this time, because what they are saying is as extreme as the creation of mankind in the Bible, if we use our own logic reasoning mind.

We must keep in mind that there are other major religions that explain the creation of man in different ways; here I am talking about the Indus religions, and I quote.

“Hinduism perceives the whole creation and its cosmic activity as the work of three fundamental forces symbolized by three gods, which constitutes the Hindu Trinity or ‘Trimurti’: Brahma - the creator, Vishnu - the sustainer, and Shiva - the destroyer.” End of quote. It is said that mankind sprang from Brahma body and there were four caste, or type of men. As you can see this is different from the Bible creation.

Here Mark stopped talking about religion, and then started talking about other things.

Now, reflecting on what has been said, I believe that Mark is right. This is one of the reasons why, I like to talk to my friends just to feel more confident.

I believe that I have said enough in this article, so, see you next time, where we are writing about, Religions could be man made

To see more click on this link, Religious discussions four.

May God bless us all.

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Sunday, April 14, 2024

Religious discussions three.

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore, every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe, and every one of us believes what we believe. google.com, pub-9256279988632468, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0 
Anyhow, I believe that we are guided from what we believe, so, in these articles we will talk about, how by using our own imagination, we can find a way how to link all existing religions together. You see, all religions are based on beliefs, and beliefs can be modified, if we allow them to be modified, therefore, if all religious beliefs are modified the same way, one day we can believe in a single God and religion. So, the unbeliever believer can be disarmed. 
Anyhow, what follows here is what has happened to me during my life, and I believe that if we pray God, God can help us say the right things. Anyhow, the religious discussion that follow, are also in this article in Hub Page, at this link, Religious discussions three

                   Religious discussions and beliefs of the world. 


We know that man needs God, so, it would be helpful if religious issues or other issues, we discuss them with our friends, so that we could see what other people think about those issues, and this is what we are doing in these articles.  

Welcome to our article, Religious discussions three

Dear readers, we call this article, religious discussions three, being the continuation of discussions two, where we left with Gino wanting to talk to our friend John very likely in an aggressive way, so, let us see what he had to say?

Dear readers, to make it easier for you to understand, we want to let you know what sort of a bloke Gino is; you see, Gino likes to make an argument out of anything, religiously Gino is a Christian or Christian agnostic, it depends on the way he feels he may even act as an atheist, so, we wonder what he is going to say to John next.

Now let us say who is John; well John is a religious bloke that believes in his Jehovah witness religion, therefore, everything for John is exactly as the Bible says. Now as we have said in our last article, Gino is keen to talk to John, therefore, looking at these two friends that seem to be on a collision course, we are concerned about it, but at the same time we are curious how this religious debate is going to be like soon. So, let us see first what Gino is going to say to John:

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Religious debate or discussions. 

Continuing the discussions; Gino to John

Hey John, did you hear Mark speech; I believe that he knows a lot about religions, doesn’t he? So, now that you have heard those religious issues, and knowing that there are lots of other religions in the world because man needs God, I am asking you this, are you still going to think the same way and follow your Jehovah witness religious beliefs blindly? Or are you going to be like one of us and be open to religious comments, and sometimes accept the outcome of that comment. You see, we can never be sure, if what we have been told about God is correct; therefore, we must ask ourselves, whether they are true or not. What do you say to that?

John to Gino

Look Gino, Mark may know a fair bit about religions, I will give you that; but you have to admit that what he has said is only general knowledge and nothing else, that is the way I feel about his speech; also I need to add that I am not convinced that religious things are exactly the way he said, so, I am still one hundred per cent sure that I am right about my own religious beliefs and what is written in the Bible, so, I am not going to change my religious beliefs at all based on Mark speech okay!

Gino to John

John, you are really a believer and believe whatever is written in the Bible, but really you should think about your beliefs, as you have heard there are a lot more religions in the world, so, there may be, I say may be that one of these other religions is right and your beliefs are not. Look I don’t want to be hard on your religious beliefs, but there are people that think otherwise; in fact, there are even people that do not believe in God at all. They are intelligent people that recon that God does not exist and there was no creation as the Bible says; because there is no need for a creator to create life, you see, it is possible that simply life just came about by itself, and then with the passing of time it grew and became the way it is today through evolution, you know there is a theory about this issue and most scientists agree with it.

John to Gino

I am sorry to say this Gino, but today you sound to me that you are an atheist; I thought that you were a Christian and that you believed in God, I think I have made a mistake in judging you a Christian, because today you don’t sound like a Christian at all, you know what I mean, a Christian is a person that believes in God and fears God, because he wants God to see that he is a good person and that he follows God commandment, therefore he deserves eternal life?

Gino to John

I know that John, but you see I wanted to see what you thought about other religions, beside your Jehovah wetness religion. For instance, do you believe that God created everything in seven days like the Bible says, or do you have some doubts about creation yourself?

John to Gino

There you are again; you are indeed an atheist and next thing you are going to say to me, that through evolution and the forces of nature everything created itself and that we are monkeys that through evolution have become humans. You know what I mean, monkeys eating bananas, do you see a monkey in yourself and me or do you see a person. Just listen to me Gino, monkeys are monkeys and cannot be anything else, and humans are people like Adam who was created as a person, like God said in his own image, don’t you see that?

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Preventing a religious argument. 

My comment (Frank)

Up to this point the rest of the group I, Mark and a couple of other guys were talking various things, while at the same time I was paying attention to what Gino and John were talking about, because I thought that Gino could really upset John, and I knew that I was right to think about that because something was going to happen, therefore, I had to prevent this religious argument escalate. So, I winked at Mark and pointed out to him that something needed our attention, and we moved closer to Gino and John, and then I said: you two really want to solve the world religious problems right away, don’t you? But I have to tell you that it is unlikely that we can find a way, if you carry on arguing the way you do, because it is more likely that we can find a way, if we have the same views.

Now since you have started this conversation about creation and evolution, which is the most important evidence that we want to find out, if we can find any evidence. The point is that we need that evidence to decide about our religious beliefs, and about how much creation took place, and what could have been the role of evolution, in other words how the creation of mankind happened.

I believe that to do this we need to break our information source in small pieces, then decide with our logic common sense, if what is being presented to us can be true or not. In other words, what is presented to us we must question the questionable and answer those questions truthfully.

Now since Gino and John have started this conversation about creation, let us try if we can do something about it?

Having decided to try to keep this religious issue going, in the hope of finding out, what my friends thought about it, I raised my voice and said, may we have the attention of everybody please. Because I would like to ask you these questions about creation and the creation of man?

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Some answer to our questions. 

Hereunder are some answers to our questions, in these discussions. 

Please answer our first question: do you believe that man was created from God the same way as the Bible says?

John answers to my question.

Of course, that is the only way possible for man to be created, because God is the creator of everything, it says so in the Bible and the Bible is the word of God.

Gino answer

Look, I have to say that I am a Christian, but even though I am a Christian and believe in this religion, I doubt very much that God has created man from plain earth soil, because there must be another explanation how man came about to be created, and why the Bible claims that God made man from plain earth soil or clay?

Mark answer

I see what you mean Gino, so, I say that for myself don’t see any logic for God creating man from dust, let us call it dust, because in the Bible “Genesis 3:19 says. “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” But that is the Bible and there must be a good reason to say that at the time it was written, but here we need to find out why it was written like that, if we want to get a logic answer?

Peter answer (This is another friend that came to the meeting)

Just to say something for friendship sake, I have to say that I believe a lot like Gino, so, I think that if I use my brains and logic explanation, I say that there must be another logic explanation why the Bible claims that God made man from plain earth ground, but I cannot think what was the reason.

Mike answer (this is another friend at the meeting, he may be an atheist?)

What I want to say here is that we are living in the 21st century, and we know a lot more now than when the Bible was written, so, by logic explanation hearsay from well educated people and my own intelligence says that God did not make man from earth ground, because that may be an impossible thing to do even for God. This is my answer, I am saying this assuming that God exists; you see God may not exist. What about that?

Frank (me the writer)

I see every one of you has got a different view or beliefs about how man was created, so, we need to ask more questions to find out the reasons why it is like that.

So, let me see what we can ask you next time.

Dear readers, do you see what we mean here? This is how religions are today and people will move away from religions if they cannot be explained better in the future. So, it is up to us to do something that may help humanity understand these religious things, even if religions are explained in different ways.

Having said that, now we want to suggest that perhaps a new way of interpreting religious books could help. Perhaps a new religious theory that allows God and the forces of nature work together; in other words, God, uses evolution to create all living things and everything else. This can result in a less powerful God, but even that can help. Because then, the terrorist groups that kill in the name of God, may see God less powerful and give up killing other people, in the name of their powerful God.

After these religious discussions above, we started to talk about other issues that are not worth writing here, since we want to talk here about religions only.

See you next time in, Religious discussions four

To see more click on this link, Religious discussions three

May God bless us all.

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