Monday, May 12, 2014

Religious discussions

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Welcome to our blog, Man needs God
and this post, Religious discussion
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It is usually a good sign when people from different religions meet and talk their differences.

Some people meet and talk all sorts of issues, whether these discussions are religious or otherwise is not going to make a great difference, because a meeting is successful only when people reach an agreement.  


Religious discussions

As anyone can see, these articles are being written to discuss and overcome some of those religious difficulties that arise today, in order to do that we can say that this is a religious study of how religions serve humanity since humanity needs God and religions, therefore we will continue to discuss these issues, in the hope of finding a way how to overcome those difficulties.
So this post is Religious discussions three, being also part of Prayers for Reconciliation and a chapter of our religious writings and the continuation of discussions two, in our post “The western world religions”, where we left with Gino wanting to talk to our friend John in an aggressive way, so let us see what he had to say?
Dear readers, in order to make it easier for you to understand what is happening, and before we write Gino speech down, or should we say before we write Gino argument with John, we would like to let you know what sort of a bloke Gino is; you see Gino sometimes likes to make an argument out of anything, religiously Gino is a Christian or Christian agnostic, sometimes depends on the way he feels he may even act as an atheist, so we wonder what he is going to say to John next.
Now let us say who is John; well John is a very religious bloke that really believes in his Jehovah witness religion, so everything for John is exactly as the Bible says. Now as we have already said in my last post, Gino seems keen to talk to John, therefore looking at these two friends we are just curious how this religious discussion or debate is going to be like. So let us see first what Gino is going to say to John:
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 A religious debate or discussions

After my conclusion on Mark speech in our last post, Gino approaches John and starts to talk to him thus:
Gino to John
Hey John did you hear Mark speech; he knows a lot about religions, doesn’t he? So now that you have heard all that religious stuff, and knowing that there are lots of other religions in the world just because man needs God somehow, I am asking you this, are you still going to think the same and follow your Jehovah witness religious beliefs as if it is the only possible way to go in your religious ways? Or are you going to be just like one of us and be open to any religious discussion or comment and sometimes accept that comment. You see one could never be sure if what we have been told about God and other religious beliefs are true or not. What do you say to that?
John to Gino
Look Gino, Mark may know a fair bit about religions, I will give you that; but you have to admit that what he has said is only general knowledge, that is the way I feel about his speech; also I need to add that I am not convinced that religious things are exactly the way he said, so I am still one hundred per cent sure that I am right about my own religious beliefs, because I believe that the Jehovah Witness religion is the only true religion, so, I am not going to change my beliefs at all based on Mark speech Okay.
Gino to John
John, you are really a believer and believe in God and whatever is written in the Bible, but really you should think again about your beliefs, as you have heard there are a lot more religions in the world, so, there may be, I say may be that one of these other religions might be right and your beliefs are not. Look I don’t really want to be hard on your religious beliefs here, but there are a lot of people that think otherwise, in fact there are even people that do not believe in God at all as you may know, in fact there are good intelligent people that reckon that God does not exist and there was no creation as the Bible says, because there is no need for a god to create life, you see it is possible that simple life just came about by itself, and then with the passing of time it grew and became the way it is today through evolution, you know there is a theory about this issue.
John to Gino
I am sorry to say this Gino, but today you sound to me that you have become an atheist; I thought that somehow you were a Christian and that you believed in God somehow, I believe that I have made a mistake in judging you a Christian, because today you don’t sound like a Christian at all, you know what I mean, a Christian is a person that believes in God and fears God, because he wants God to see that he deserves better or perhaps eternal life?
Gino to John
I know that John, but you see I just wanted to see what you thought about religions, let me say outside your Jehovah wetness religion. For instance, do you really believe that God created everything in seven days like the Bible says, or do you have some doubts about creation yourself?
John to Gino
There you are you are indeed an atheist and next thing you are going to say to me, that through evolution and the forces of nature everything created itself and that we are monkeys that through evolution have become humans. You know what I mean, monkeys eating bananas, do you see a monkey in yourself and me or do you see a person. Just listen to me Gino, monkeys are monkeys and cannot be anything else, and humans are people just like Adam who was created as a person, like God said in his own image, don’t you see that? 
Here I would like to stop as this post is already long enough, and we will continue this story in our next post called; Preventing a religious argument.   

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Sunday, April 27, 2014

The western world religions

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Welcome to our blog, Man needs God
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The Bible is the most read religious book in the world. From the bible many religions were born.
















The Koran is like the Bible for the Muslim people









The western world religions

Today western world religions
Most of the western world religions as we know them today start with Abraham and the Bible. The Bible in reality is a history and religious book of the Jews. Most of us believe, or have been thought to believe that the Bible is the written word of the living God, as God has spoken through his prophets.
As most of us know the Bible starts with the book of Genesis, and it starts with God creating the world, and from there it tells us briefly what happens from the creation of the world to the times of Abraham.
When Abraham was 99 God appeared to Abraham and said I am El Shaddai (God almighty) Walk with me and be trust worthy. I will make a covenant between us and I will give you many descendants and many other things God said to Abraham.
With the covenant with God start the story of Abraham and the descendants of Abraham. Today some of the descendants of Abraham are known as the Jews. In a nutshell sometime later on, the Jews become slaves of the powerful Egyptian king, they cry to their God to help them, and God delivers them from the Egyptians with the help of their leader Moses, who has met God on Mount Sinai in the form of a burning bush, this burning bush talked to Moses and said that his name was Yahweh (which laterally means, I am who I am) the God of Abraham and he wanted to deliver his people from the Egyptian Faeroes. So, God then told Moses to go back to Egypt and help rescue his people.
After a long argument with the Egyptian Faeroes with the help of Yahweh Moses succeeds in freeing the Jews from the Egyptian Faeroes and they leave Egypt to go to the Promised Land. In the way to the Promised Land the Jews don’t do what Yahweh wants then to do and believe; and Yahweh punishes them by making them stay for forty years in the desert, that is until all those who did not believe in God were dead.
In the end the Jews reach the Promised Land and stay there for a very long time under various leaders the most known and mentioned even these days are Salomon and David. In the Bible through his prophets Yahweh promises the Jews that from the line of David will be born a man with great powers and he will be the messiah to the Jews and the world, this great man will let the world know about everything that there is to know about religions and lead the world.
So, the messiah is born in the form of our Lord Jesus Christ at the time when the Promised Land is occupied from the Romans; the Jews hope and believe that the messiah is going to be their king and be able to deliver them from the Romans that were occupying their Promised Land. But when they saw that Jesus Christ was not what they wanted him to be, they found a way how to eliminate him by crucifying him with the help of the Romans. But the follower of Jesus Christ continued to believe in Jesus Christ and thus a new religious era was born, Christianity. At the same time the Jews rejected Jesus as the messiah and continued in believing God in the same old ways of their religious order.
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There are many Christian religions
Christianity is a general name that includes many religions; they all come from the Bible.
So, as we can see Christianity is a continuation of the religious laws and beliefs of Abraham and Moses, but after the death of Jesus Christ and many other happenings it split away and became another religion in its own rights as we know it today. Of course Christianity took a long time to become the main religion of the western world as we all know, because at the beginning it was not accepted and many people died martyrs just because they believed in this new religious order of Christianity, history is full of many prosecutions that the new Christian had to endure before they became accepted as a religious order. There are reasons to believe that Christianity became accepted under the Roman emperor Constantine the great early in the fourth century AD. Emperor Constantine was the first Roman emperor that converted to Christianity.
Christianity nowadays has got several orders like the Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Lutherans, Anglicans and many others. As we can see all these religions have come from the Bible, and one can go on talking about these religions for a long time, if one has to explain them better, So, I better stop talking about them now, as there is another main religion that I would like to talk about now, which is the Islamic religion.
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Islam, Koran book is their Bible.

Islam religion
There are reasons to believe that the Koran also comes from the Bible, and even though today we (the western world) seem to be so far away from our brothers Muslims the fact remains that they are descended of Ishmael first son of Abraham and Hagar the Egyptian maidservant, then Abraham had his second son was Isaac with his wife Sarah: These two are the most important two children of Abraham, and therefore we can say that through Abraham we are brothers with the Muslims.
Now, I would to say that we should really try at least to read some of the Koran, so that we might be able to understand what these Muslims are talking about. Therefore we need to put aside those extremists fanatic that in their twisted way seem to think that they need to kill those that do not follow their religion.
Anyhow, I have read part of the Koran and it seems to me that God is the same God of Abraham, and it says so many times, the only difference is that they call their God Allah instead of Yahweh, and have many different laws compared to our laws. So we still need to learn a lot more before we pass our own judgment on this religion?
(Writer comment) So hereunder is a link that might take you to the Koran, let us hope it works in hub pages.
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Speech conclusions

I need to say that there are a lot more religions in the world today which have come from different civilizations, and we could go on and make a list of them all and it will be a long list. Anyhow here and now, our task is to find which one is the most suitable to use, or to make up another religion capable of satisfying the human need for religions. As we have already said before, Man needs God. And we have also said that God is hope for those who need hope most.
That is all I want to say now, as my speech has been too long and some of you wonder when I am going to stop. Thanks for listening anyhow.
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Frank short comment
At the end of Mark speech we all were congratulating Mark and saying that he knew more than most of us about religions, and that we surely would reflect on what he had said: I said I am sure that our friends here are going to discuss a lot more about religions because of what you said, so let us see what they are going to argue about soon. Look over there, I see our friend Gino looking at John as if he wants to speak to him, perhaps he is going to have a good interesting chat with him presently. We might even have a laugh Ha, ha, ha.
My dear readers, let us postpone what Gino and John are going to argue about for next article, because I believe that I have said enough in this post. But, let me say briefly what sort of conclusion we can find in Mark speech. The only conclusion that I can see, is that there is no conclusion at all, because religions are very complex and we are going to need a lot of time to sort them out, if we have the courage and strength to continue to look for a solution.
My dear readers, this is not the end of the meeting and if you would like to see what happened next at the end of Mark speech you have to wait when I post our next article; Religious discussions three.
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Sunday, April 20, 2014

More religious discussions

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Welcome to our blog, Man needs God
And this post, more religious discussions

There are many religions in the entire world, and everyone of them seem to do their job, when they are applied as they are supposed to be applied, but with some of them it is very easy to do the wrong things?









Religious discussions two

This religious article is being written to continue our discussions on all sorts of religious issues, as it is necessary to widen our base, therefore we are going to bring other people to discuss some of those issues because we believe that a group discussion may be helpful to understand what people may think about religions.
As you know dear readers, in our last article we have outlined a few things about the need to discuss the religions problems that exist today, therefore, I have invited a few religious friends to have a friendly chat or discussions about these religious issues.
So, let these discussions begin by informing our friends what we would like to talk about today.
My personal introduction
My dear friends at this meeting today I have something to tell you, you see, it looks like that I need your help, so let me briefly explain. As you all know already I am writing these religious articles and because the matter is so complex I would like to ask your opinion, because opinions count and what you are going to say could help me. You see I see problems ahead with today religious beliefs, so, I wish I could come up with a solution to today’s religious problems. Some of you might say why you have to worry about these public problems? I know you are right to say that, but somehow I am being driven by my inner self to do this, so, it is not easy to just forget about it. Anyhow, what I would like here is to discuss with you these problems and see if we could come up with a solution, or perhaps a suggestion about which way to go, so the knowledge or beliefs of each and every one of you could be very useful to say the least, this is the main reason why I have invited you to come together at my place, apart that we enjoy to stay together and talk about anything at all.
Anyhow, now that we are here I invite you to discuss our religious beliefs and I ask you not to hold back on anything that comes to your mind, because you and I are here to find and perhaps suggest new ways of dealing with this very old religious problem, as you can see in our last article if you follow our religious writings we have said that we are trying to come up with a way on how to discuss religious issues without upsetting very religious people, therefore we need to do it in such a way that would not upset religious people.
Now, I would like to ask you to have your say, if you would like to take part in this undertaking and talk about all existing religions and what they mean to you? Therefore I would be asking you in turn to have your say if you are taking part in these religious discussions. I know some of you don’t know what to say today, but perhaps later on you want to say what could be on your mind.
Anyhow today to begin with I have already asked my dear friend Mark to have something ready to say to you all, so that these religious discussions may really begin. So, Mark please let we hear what you have to say?
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Mark religious speech

Mark opening speech
Dear friends, I don’t really know how to start with, but first of all I need to say that I feel honoured to be the first to be invited to speak to you about religions.
So, today we are going to speak about all sorts of religions and what we think about them, here I have to say that with so many religions around it is hard to start in any way; and also, here I have to say that although I know a bit about religions from some reading I have done a while ago, I have reason to believe that I don’t know enough to positively assure you that what I am going to say next is right or not, it is just the way I see religions, and you have to accept it as it is, because as it is, it is just a way of how I see religions today, perhaps tomorrow I may have to change my views and beliefs, who knows?
In order to start my religious speech I have chosen only a few of the main religions that I am going to talk about; but first of all I have to say that religions for us humans are necessary, as we feel this in-borne need to belong to some sort of religions, because we have always felt the need to believe in God and something supernatural that would or could help us when we feel unable to cope with something that is or seems to be stronger than ourselves.
Having said that, now let us see how some of the main religions have set themselves up, in order to achieve that and be able to explain to their people their religious beliefs. Anyhow in my speech here I am going to be brief and therefore I am only talking about the main beliefs and from where they seem to have started. As we all know, or perhaps I should say that we all should know that the most important two religions of the world today are: The religions that come from the Bible and Hinduism, which have split and evolved to other religions, of course there are other religions but we could say that they are a minority, and there are of course the old pagan religions that are not used anymore, since Christianity was able to replace them fully.
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Now, let us start with Hinduism 

The Laws of Manu is a Hindu religious book where the great sage Manu is being asked from other sages, and here is described most of the religious facts. 



I am starting with the Hindus religions just because it is believed that they are the first to be written in a text, or bits and pieces of writings that later on would become a written text.
One of these books that I have read is, The Laws of Manu: The Laws of Manu explained in a nutshell that an ever existing force or energies has always existed, in the great darkness that existed before the world was born; this Self existing force or energy called (Svayambhu or something like that.) These existing energies were so complex that they were/are unknowable and unfathomable, anyhow this field or force of energy in the beginning seeded an egg and this egg became Brahman the progenitor of the whole world, Brahman split in two and created the world as we know it. Of course there is a lot more to this great Indus religion, specially how the people and the different cast were born, and we will come back to discuss it another day, but this is somehow how the Hinduism was started.
As I said in the beginning we will be talking only about the very main parts of religions in a nutshell, because every religion has a never ending story to tell, and also Hinduism is a very complex religion; for instance, if we want to find out and write the names of those Indus religions and their gods, it would fill many pages.
Anyhow, another of these religions that came from these Indus religions is Buddhism; at the beginning it was part of this Indus religions, but Budda set it up in a more advanced way, Budda is born in a royal family in 624 BC so he is a prince, he was named Siddhartha, he was born with his own destiny, as he was going to be the one that knows everything, the enlightened one and the founder of the Buddhism.
Today one of the best known religious leaders of Buddhism is the Tibetan Dalai Lama. There is a lot more to say about this religion, but this has got to do for the moment.
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 The old western religions

Paganism was the old western religions
The pagan gods as some of us would know when we learned history
Before Christianity, while in Asia Hinduism was one of the most important religions; in Europe were the pagan gods. Some people say that in the beginning of paganism, it seems that one of the oldest and most powerful gods was Saturn; this god Saturn had three sons, that one day replaced Saturn as the king of the gods: the first son of Saturn was Jupiter who became king of the gods who lived on Mount Olympus Greece, the second one was Neptune who was king of the seas, and the third was Pluto king of the underworld or the dead. There were lots of other gods, goddesses like Apollo the sun god, Mars the war god Eros and Venus the gods of love and many gods and demigods and others that filled the void of any supernatural beliefs. But I believe that it would be better for me to come back another time to talk about them? Or perhaps just we have to let them be the way they are, since these Gods have been replaced with a new and very powerful God in the western world. However let us have a quick look at them. 



Some later Olympus gods, if you look for more details how it all started use the link that we have attached in The Primordials   


However we have found a hub that is very interesting and we would like to partly say a very few things about it, and then give you the link to see for yourself: (and we quote)
The Primordials
Before there was anything, there was Chaos. Unlike the Chaos that Egyptians knew as the beginning of all things which represented disorder, the Greek concept meant a state of nothingness.
From Chaos there came Gaea, also known as Earth, Tartarus, the deepest pit within the ground, Erebus who was darkness, and Nyx, or night. These four beings were called the primordial deities.
This link above is the link for this hub called, “The Golden Age: The First Greek Deities”
We hope it works for you.
We believe that this post is becoming too long, so we will continue these religious discussions in our next post called, The western world religions, where we will be talking about the Christian religions, starting with Abraham; See you there.  

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Monday, April 14, 2014

Our religious discussion

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.

WELCOME to our blog, Man needs God
And this post of Our religious discussion
May God guide and help me say the right things in these religious writings? 
The Bible is the most read book in the world, from this book other religions were born 
The Koran book below is the Muslim religious book, it is the largest single religion in the world.   

The Laws of Manu is the Hindus religious book, also from this religion some other religions came to be born.  









Religious discussions about religious problems
Dear readers, as we have mentioned in one of our articles of People life and religion, we believe that religions are being undermined by some people, and because of these unfortunate happenings, some people like the atheists make a big fuss about it and attack religions; we may have to believe that they may have a good reason for doing so, because if we look at the news about what is happening around in a religious way, we find that there are some real problems caused by religions, therefore we cannot blame the atheists altogether for trying to take advantage from all this negative happenings.
But what are these happenings that we are talking about?
Perhaps, the first and most important problems that we would like to mention here is about paedophilia in the Christian religions, which sometimes it is really disgusting; and then there is also the extremist Islamic that under pretence kill people in the name of God. These two main facts are the most extreme unwanted happenings in the religious world and they should never really happen. Therefore, mankind needs to think hard and hope that one day we would be able to find a way about how to work out these religious problems that exist today, perhaps we should start to discuss our religious problems or dilemmas with our most trusted friends, in the hope to find a way out, as we all know a collective effort is better that just a single person effort.
Having talked to our religious friends already about this, we have to say that some of our friends have some real interesting ideas about religions, which we would like to discuss and these ideas include also religious books discussions, which they think need to be discussed, even if it is going to be just discussions religious and otherwise, then we would like to publish our religious studies or discussions.
Therefore, today first of all I would like to say what I have asked our religious friends, I have asked them to concentrate and talk or write about religions, I have asked our friends to talk about religious beliefs on all sorts of religions including religious books, you see we need to take a closer look at all religious books and see if they mean what we have been told they mean, after all we have already said that we continually are in search of ourselves in a religious way, so, let us look together more closely at all sorts of religions, in the hope of finding the right answer to the existing religious problems?
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Studying and discussing religions

We are studying and discussing religions, because we are in search of ourselves in a religious way; so, these religious writings could be said that it is a study of religions and how they serve humanity, we believe that in order to understand our position better, we need to look at a larger picture than we normally do, so, we have to put everything together whatever we know about religions, and then start thinking with this wider view, so that we would not be limited in our understanding of the situation?
Therefore, let us first of all start with what we know and agree about religions and its existence, and then we may be able to see better what could follow later on?
What we know now is this, that we live on this planet that we call earth, with our solar system and other planets in the constellation of the zodiac which is part of the Milky Way galaxy, all this we know and most of us agree that these celestial bodies exist, but what we don’t know for sure and we seem neither to agree or to disagree is this: does God really exist and did God create all this? And if not how did this all happen? Of course we know that the Bible says that God created everything, but not all of us accept creation as it is written in the bible, in fact today there are lots of people that believe in the evolution of living things including some of ourselves?
Now these questions that we are asking above create a lot more questions like: Can we assume that God and everything else is eternal, in other words they have always been there, and if that is the case can we say that everything together is God and everything exists within God, you see if everything is eternal, then there is no need of a creator because everything has been there all the time, so God the creator would only be a modifier that adjusted everything the way he wanted, God could still be the creator of life itself, but not the creator of the universe, since God and the universe are eternal.
Or perhaps we should assume that in the beginning everything was not defined, but slowly  the existing energies in the universe somehow crystallized and so God was formed, so God is part of the whole universe: all these assumptions are not easy to answer or understand, because it would be taking us too far away of what is known today. Therefore, it would be better for us to try to sort what the people of this world have already accepted, whether they have been partly accepted or completely accepted, and from this present accepted knowledge work our way out to find a better religious order, if we could. So let us discuss existing religious books and religious beliefs.
So, as we have already said in some of our articles, we may have to discuss all sorts of religious beliefs including religious books and the reasons why they have been written the way they have been written. Then, we have to ask ourselves about these same religious books and their application at the time when they were written and again we have to ask ourselves, if they were to be written today, would they be written the same way or would they be changed; Because this might be the reason why religions seem to fail now. You see if they fail now it is because of the different ways and values that mankind has today, compared to when these religious books were written in the first place, therefore things have changed and religions need to change also. If we do all these things then we could be in a better position to say what could be done religiously.
So the question now arises, how do we do all these changes without upsetting the present religious orders too much? As we all know there are a lot of religious orders, so it is going to be really hard to avoid upsetting them, but if we want to find a new way even this drawback needs to be overcome. It might help to tell them that we are writing this to find a religious reconciliation for the benefit of mankind, but even that might not help much, so we have to try hard to avoid any inconvenience that we may cause with this new religious vision.
Perhaps if we get together and discuss the main religious issues in a group, and then write the main issues of the discussion down, in such a way that they are only friendly discussions and views, then perhaps we may be able to avoid upsetting those religious groups that will easily be upset.
As we have already said before in these religious writings our aim is to go in search of a futuristic religious theory that would be able to link all existing religions together, and that what our aim is; and we hope to find it by studying and discussing religions with our religious friends and other religious groups?
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How to be accepted

Since we would like to write some religious articles, we would like that those article would be accepted from everybody, but it is not going to be easy; so our main concern here is to write something acceptable to all religious groups on this planet earth, to do that is not going to be easy, in fact it is the hardest thing to achieve as far as I know, but we would like to give some friendly advice to our reader, like that article written for our readers’ peace of mind, where we explain what we are doing.
Anyhow since I am not so sure how to go about now, I will pray our lord God Most High to accept this earthly explanation also as my prayer for help and guidance and I am praying thus:
Here I am my Lord God praying for help: I am turning to anyone who is a believer and believes in God and also other religious beliefs and I say to them; please read our religious reconciliation writings fully before you pass judgment. God help me to open the eyes and minds of those readers and let them see that all these religious writings of, Prayers of Reconciliation and reconciliation of the universe, is just an idealistic and futuristic religious theory, which is trying to find a way if that is possible on how to link all existing religions together, we would like to do that in the hope that this new religious theory would be able to bring all existing religious orders together, and in the hope that this theory will benefit all mankind.
Now that we have explained in this article some of our intentions and the intention to call on our most trusted religious friends and other religious groups to find a way about how to discuss these religious issues, I believe that I have said enough for the time being, and therefore we will have to leave the real discussions starting with next hub. Religious discussions two
May God bless us all?
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