Sunday, October 19, 2014

About The New Testament

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Our Lord Jesus Christ
The New Testament is all about the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ.












The New Testament, is about the life of Jesus Christ and his teaching.









About the New Testament

Welcome to our article, the New Testament religious discussions
As we all know, religions could be said to be very complex and sometime hard to understand, so, we need to discuss those religious issues, if we want to understand them, for this reason today we would like to discuss about The New Testament, just to see what we think about some issues that happen there. We know that religious issues are very complex and they take a long time to sort out, for example here we are working hard to find a way out of some issues that seem to bother the world of religions today, the main issues that religions face today could or would be: to find a way how to survive the atheist attacks; how to stop paedophilia in the religious orders and how to stop extremists to use religions for their own violent acts. These issues may seem to have a link to the way religions have been formatted in the past. So, here we need to say that we have looked at many religious issues already and in the last post, we have also written about the Old Testament, in the hope of finding ways that would help religion survive better, the attack of the atheists and also the attack that the extremist groups that are producing against religions today and other issues.
Because of the actions of these groups the rest of the religious community needs to start asking whether it is wise to continue to believe in religions just the way they are today. So, let us look together with our religious friends were we stand today in religious matters; for this reason I have asked my friend Mark to say something about it, keeping in mind what we have already talked about in our last hub, I have asked Mark to comment on the New Testament, since we have already written about the Old Testament in our last hub, now we would like to see how Mark is going to explain the New Testament and the religions that exist today.
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Comments on the New Testament

Our fried Mark’s comment
Dear readers, my name in these religious writings is Mark and I believe that we have met already, as I have had some religious discussions with my friend Frank and other fiends before, and as far as I know Frank has already written in his posts  what I personally have said before, so in a way you know me already.
I have to say that today I have been asked from my friend Frank to comment on the New Testament and the existing religions as I see them today, so that he can include my comments in his religious posts, as we all know, or seem to be aware of, everyone of us sees religions in a slightly different way, I suppose that these religious differences also apply to me, since I have been asked to comment on religions, you see that is the reason why I have been asked to comment, it is just to see the way that I see religions today. Now that I have said that let me start my comment on religions.
Since I have been following Frank’s religious posts, I know what he wants me to comment about. So let us start from Frank’s last hub, where there were descriptions and comments about the Old Testament and this is what Frank wants me to talk about. You see Frank wants me to talk about the reasons why we switched from the Old Testament to the New Testament and so on and also if the New Testament is going to last forever, so to speak. But I am going to say a bit more than just that, as I would like to start to talk about other religions as well, so let me see from where I can start.
If we try to look back in time, we will see that there were lots of religions that were practised for a period of time, and then they were modified or abandoned for another religion, but religions have always existed, as far back as any human record can be found, therefore religions are necessary to humanity, if they were not necessary humanity would not have invented or followed religions.
Now don’t get me wrong just because I have said that religions were invented from us people; therefore you may start thinking that I might be an atheist. No, I am not an atheist but I believe that God exists and the spiritual world exists, even if we have to find it in another dimension; now this spiritual world might be somehow different form the way that most people believe it is today, but that is something that remains to be seen.
Perhaps I have taken you too far away from what my friend wants me to comment on, which is about the New Testament, how it was connected to the Old Testament and also how could it be connected to future religious beliefs, so let me start to connect every spiritual thing together, since I believe that everything in the world would be a link of the chain that goes around and connect everything together and this includes religions also.
For a start, all religions are so made that they try to give the people something back when they follow religions, most of them promises future benefits even if these benefits are to be found mostly after dead in the spiritual world, but people see these benefits and follow religions, these is how religions are made and survive for as long as their follower see these benefits.
Now, since with the passing of time things slowly change, also the value of the benefit might change, and therefore one day the follower of religions might be looking for something else.
For this reason religions need to change to fit the needs of the people, what I have just said may sound a crazy thing to say, but the reality is that this is how it all happens.
When we look at religious history, the old religions gave way to other religions and so on; so during one of those changes in the Old Testament Yahweh became the Hebraic God that the Hebrew people worshiped, this was achieved by Yahweh freeing the Israelites from the Egyptian Pharaoh who was keeping them as slaves; but Yahweh was a very tough god to deal with, and there are good reasons for Yahweh God being so tough, it was because the Jews needed a tough God.
The reason why Yahweh was a very tough God to deal with, it was because the Israelites were also tough people to deal with; in other words, I believe that people get the god that they deserve according to their own behaviour. Just think what the Hebrew were doing or wanted to do when Yahweh was leading them to the Promised Land. People in those times were very tough and even violent; therefore they needed a tough god and tough laws to guide them in the right direction that is the reason why the Old Testament was so violent, this type of religion lasted for a very long time, as it was needed until things would change for the better. Now to give a description of what happens next, let us say that when God saw that this was not the best way to lead his people as the people had become a little bit more tame, then God thought to bring about a new religious way, and this is when Our Lord Jesus Christ came down to earth to show us how to live peacefully on earth with this new religious way.
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At this point of time I (Frank) come in and say to Mark to come to the point more quickly, as he is taking too long to come to the religious point that I have asked him to comment on, because also our other friends may want to say something about this religious issue.
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The New Testament is about Christianity
Mark's comment, the New Testament is about Christianity.
Now just to come to the point more quickly as my friend Frank is urging me, I am going to say that today Christianity is the largest religion in the world, even if it has many denominations and some of them may be a bit different from one another, they all derive from the change of religions that our lord Jesus Christ brought with his coming on earth, and of course what he thought us in words and examples. Jesus was able to change the Ten Commandments without losing any of their meaning, by saying that we should love God our Father and should love our neighbours as ourselves. This is approximately what I believe he wanted to say, even if he used different ways or words. He also gave us the greatest prayer that the world has ever known, when he was asked how we should pray our Father in heaven, Jesus gave us 2000 years ago; The lord’s prayer, which is the prayer that we pray even today, starting with: Our Father who art in heaven; and so on. I hope you see what I mean.
As we all know the New Testament is about the life of Jesus Christ and his religious teachings, these new religious teachings of Jesus formed the New Testament, which has lasted for 2000 years or there about and we still use them today and perhaps we will be using them for many thousands of years in the future.
As we all know Jesus Christ teaching were followed by so many people that became a new religion, which we call today Christianity, which is nearly one third of the world population, if we group the different denominations together. Here I would like to point out that the teaching of Jesus Christ were all about love and humbleness, like you should love your Father God, and love your neighbour and don’t do anything to others that you would hate if anyone did it to you, or something like that. So Jesus Christ was a very loving person and taught only about love. So the New Testament should be about love above all, and the Old Testament about fear you god should or would be abolished according to the ways that Our Lord Jesus Christ taught us.
Now as we have said above, our Lord Jesus Christ was a very loving person and taught more about love than anything else this was his personality, well at least this is what we usually understand when we read the four gospels of The New Testament, but then at the end of the Bible suddenly his personality seems completely changed, so, let us see what it is, and perhaps why there is this change. 
The only way that we can describe this is that for us believers and this includes myself there is something strange written at the end of the Bible in The New Testament, which somehow seems out of place with the rest of Jesus Christ teachings, and this article is called Revelations where the end of the existing system is forecast; we are saying this because, we suddenly find the Lord Jesus Christ behaving somehow like Yahweh in the Old Testament, therefore we become suspicious whether it is really our Lord Jesus Christ that dictate Revelation. You see Revelation it is written in such a dramatic way that to me it seems that it has nothing to do with the New Testament and the way that our lord Jesus Christ was teaching us.
But at this point of time I believe that I have said enough, because I want also to leave something to say for our other religious friends. Perhaps Gino would like to take over from me and talk about Revelation, as I remember he had something to say about revelation before, so I am sure he is going tell us his own views here again.
See you later: from, Mark
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Since Gino happened to be there, I asked him if he wants to say something about the Bible Revelation and he agreed.
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Revelation discussion

Our friend Gino speech
Hello my readers and listeners, here again I have been asked to say something about the Bible Revelation, as our friend Mark has pointed out that I may be willing to talk about it; okay I am willing but I will try to be as brief as possible as I was going to leave you, because I have some personal things to attend to presently, so if you want me to make a long speech you have to wait for another time.
Anyhow as we have said already something on this subject a while ago, I have to continue to say how I see this last chapter in the Bible called Revelation. My personal beliefs are that Revelation seems to be a separate article altogether from Jesus Christ teaching in New Testament, if we look at the way it has been written, revelation is just another very violent episode that the whole world is going to be subjected to, if and when it might happen, therefore it is as if we are going to go back to the Old Testament, where the fear of God was the main driving force, I am sure that it has been written for that intention in mind, in other words to control the people through fear. Of course there must be an explanation for it and this I may have to tell you another time, when I am able to make up my mind what it could mean.
Today the only other thing that I really want to point out is that the intention of Jesus Christ and the New Testament is all about wanting to guide the believers through love and understanding and not through fear, therefore the book of Revelation seems to be out of place at the end of the New Testament. I hope you see what I mean.
See you later; Gino.
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My comment and conclusion
Having seen what Mark has said about our Lord Jesus Christ, who taught love and humbleness and also what Gino has said, which more or less agrees with Mark; we cannot avoid to become suspicious of the reasons why Revelation has been written like that, because it seems to me that when we add everything together it does not seem to add up the way it should; therefore we should search for the reason why and then explain it; for this reason we may have to believe that today religions or religious meanings may need to be modified, now when we talk about modifying religious meanings, we are talking about what is hidden behind those meanings that seems right at first sight, and the reasons why they are like that. Perhaps here I may suggest that Revelation might have been written like that just because there was no other way to keep the Christian people together in those troubled times?
Anyhow we might have to assume that because of all these religious problems, if we want some sort of present religious order to survive, we may have to modify them, and if modifying religions as they are today is not going to be enough, then religions need to be changed in such a way that they have to survive, because as we all know man needs God and therefore religions, it has been so since the beginning of the world.
Therefore, let us try if we may to change religion, or at least suggest that religions need to be changed, as much as they need to be changed for them to survive. Of course at this point of time all we know is that religions may need a new method or new theory made in such a way that it could work and be as close as possible to today way of living, so that people may think that religions can still be followed without an extra effort.
Therefore we would like to suggest that a modern religious way needs to be brought about with a modern method or theory, which has got to take in all particulars of each and every religion that exist today, once we have done that we have to try to fit all the pieces together, as we do with a jigsaw puzzle. In other words we have to try to find the way of how life and religions complement each other and there is no difference if one belongs to another religious group; and from this knowledge try to show religious people that they could all be together, they could stay together because the life energies of the universe and the spiritual energies of the universe are together and we are all connected to them, and also that life and spiritual things form a never ending life cycle of the universe, this is what we are going to put forward in our last and third part of our religious writings that we would like to call, Reconciliation of the universe.
Now, if we are able to do that, then with this new theory it might become possible to explain how everything including spiritual things may indeed exist in the universe and how religions could co-exist together in the future and serve humanity, as it has done in the past, I know that this may not be easy, but we have to try, it is the only way to find out. You see, we believe that religions need to continue.
I think we have said enough in this article, so see you in our next article, Religions need to continue.

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Saturday, September 13, 2014

The Bible is Hebrew history

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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The Hebrew history

The ancient book of the Bible, is the religious and historic book of the Israelite people.  



The Hebrew history

Dear readers, here we would like to point out in this post that in the ancient world people history and religions were written together, they were not separated like they are today and whatever happened was written down mostly as religion, because it was the religious leaders that knew how to write and what to say and what to do and how to control people in most circumstances, for this reason the ancient Hebrew history and religion were written in the Bible as well, by now we all should know about that, even though today we think and use the Bible as a religious book only, but if we read the Bible and we try hard to forget that the Bible is a religious book, it follows that then we will able to see that there is more Hebrew history than religious writings.
We would also be able to see that those religious writings that are written in the Bible have been written to control the Hebrew people, which are hard to otherwise control and in those times religions were used to control the people, since religions and government were (most likely) the same people using the same rules.
For this reason religions had to be made to control the people, therefore, since the Israelite was strong headed a very strong God was needed to control them and show them what to do. This might well be the reason why the Hebrew god had to be so powerful. Can you just imagine a powerful god that created everything and crated man from plain dirt? This God would be so powerful indeed, don’t you agree. So, let me ask you again this question in a different way; can there be any other god so powerful that would be able to create everything including man from plain dirt? I do not think so.
The Hebrew were indeed headstrong and selfish people, if you want to see what I mean, try to imagine the Israelite when they were in the desert and what they did, even after seeing all those things that Yahweh their God had done for them, as we know they were delivered from the Pharaoh slavery because of the seven plagues and many other things that Yahweh did for them, and then afterward the crossing of the Red Sea on dry land; but even though they had witnessed all these supernatural things, they still had their own rebellious ideas that they wanted to follow, instead of following their God Yahweh, as we have also mentioned in our previous article.
Now, we need to say that this hub is being written to discuss and comment about what is written in the Bible, not only about the religious aspect of the Bible, but also about the Hebrew history that is written in it, so that a better understanding of the Bible could be achieved.
Now, looking at what we have already said, it seems to me that there must be another explanation, why the Israelite were had strong; here we have to admit that something does not add up in the Bible, because there is a discrepancy in the narrative of the Bible; therefore there must be another explanation, which is that ether the Israelites were really headstrong and wanted to see only their own ways and this means that God might have made a mistake to choose them as his people, or perhaps God did not do those many things that the Bible says he did?
Here I suppose that we need to explain ourselves better about what we want to say with these religious or spiritual writings, You see, we do not say that the Hebrew God Yahweh does not exist at all, in fact we are pretty sure that Yahweh God does exist, but he exist in a less powerful form than the Hebrew people have described him, of course Yahweh is still a very powerful God, but He is less powerful than the way he has been described from the Hebrews; of course there is a lot more that can be said about Yahweh God of the Israelite, so let us see what happens on the Sinai desert.
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In the Sinai desert

The Israelite in the Sinai desert

This is the Sinai desert, where the Israelite stayed a long time after leaving Egypt, they seem to be going in the wrong direction, lots of times, some of these explanations are in our text here under. 



The Bible says that the Israelite stayed a long time in the Sinai desert, at the beginning the Israelites were given laws from Yahweh their God through Moses: they were counted and assigned there place around the tabernacle, they were given their tasks as Yahweh God was telling Moses and many other things that would take a long time to tell, so if you want to check all these details it is necessary that you read the first five books of the Bible; this is the link, www.catholic.org/bible/ but anyhow what is so incredible here is that Yahweh God dictated just about everything through Moses.
Here again what is written in the Bible seems incredible, as God did so much work and every single aspect of the Israelite life was regulated as Yahweh ordered through Moses, and then Moses and his brother Aaron would pass to their people. Therefore here again we may have to ask, did everything really happen as it is written in the Bible and Yahweh God did all this programming?
Or perhaps it only seems that way, just because later on when the Bible was written, it seems that Moses and Aaron were in charge of this fastidious group of Israelite, who seemed never happy about anything, so they had to be guided with whatever means possible, so they might have exaggerated what Yahweh was telling Moses just to control them. Anyhow, whatever was really known or written in the beginning might have changed, because it was written and re-written later on many times, anyhow these religious laws were written is such a way that the Israelites were bound to follow these religious laws. We believe that the people then were guided by religions more than today, or just it was necessary to control the people with religion in those times, as people believed in God and religions more than these days.
If one had to compare the old religions with today religions, we should search for those religions that have not changed much, and for that reason they retain still that religious control of the people, one of these religions is the Muslim religion, which does not seem to have changed, here religion and the laws of the land seem identical in the Muslim world, or at least we from the western world see their laws as being mainly religious driven.   
You see, today no matter what we do or say about religions we always have some doubts in our minds, in fact we are not even sure if God really exists; anyhow this is how we see religious things today and here we are talking about ancient times.
Anyhow, in the ancient times, if Yahweh God really came down to earth and helped the Israelites that much, how come that every now and again the Israelite people had doubts about their God; may it be that God did not do as much as the Bible said he did?
You see today if anything would happen just the way that have happened in the Bible, or how the Bible claims that they have happened, I am sure that just about everybody would follow religion and their God blindly; anyhow let us continue the story of the Israelite and their God.
There are many things and happenings that don’t add up as they should, one of these strange happenings was this: You see Yahweh had promised the Israelites the Promised Land, but as we know the Israelites of those times did not follow God every time blindly, in fact they did not believe that they could really take over the Promised Land from the people that were already there, as God had promised them, and for this reason Yahweh punished them by making them stay in the dessert for forty years, that is until all those people that had doubts died and a new generation took over.
This single happening makes us ask many questions here, so: what was the reason why the Israelites did not believe in their God Yahweh? Was it because God did not do those things that the Bible claims he has done? Or were the Israelites blind and did not see what was happening around them? Or is this all an invented religious story written later on to control the Israelites? I am sure that we will never know the answer and there will be always doubts in our minds, but we have to live with it, and every one of us should follow with our own religious beliefs.
As you can see from what we have written above, while we are trying to explain whether the Bible is a religious book or the Israelite history, we end up questioning the questionable, above all whether these things really happened as the Bible claims, but let us sees what happens in the religious circles, because we believe that religions and everything else changes with time. 
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From old to modern religions

St Peter basilica in Rome, is today the centre of the Roman Catholic religion, you see, this is how religions change, in the past from the old Hebrew religion new religions were born, because things happen and religions become modified. For this reason we believe that today religions will become modified in the future. 


We need to move from the old religions to modern religions it is the sign of the time and get ready for the religions of the future, since they are coming one way or another.
As we have seen above, there are many more things that can be said here, about the Israelites and the Old Testament in the Bible; but we will have to come back to continue what is written in the Bible another time, when we edit these writings again and again, you see our main task today is not that we want to write here what is written in the Bible; because our main task is to find a way how to explain to you those religious doubts, that we have found when we were reading the Bible and also what could be done about it, in other words what we could or should do about them, because we believe that they need to be addressed so to speak.
What we are saying above is not that we should change anything that is written in the Bible, to the contrary, we should keep what is written in the Bible the way it is, because the Bible belongs to the past and the past cannot be changed; but we should learn from it and together with other thing we have learned we should plan for the future, because some minor religious changes may happen in the future. Of course this is not the first time that humanity has done that, if we look back at history we will see that many religions have given way to new religions, the way that we see this is that religions have got to agree with the times they are in, if they don’t the public will slowly move away from them.
Therefore now let us go back to talk about the Bible religions and Christianity, today as you know the Old Testament is no longer the most important part of our religious beliefs, since The New Testament is what most western religions are following today, therefore, it seems to me that religions are just as everything else, they have their life span so to speak, as we have said above, so, soon or later they become too old and they have to be somehow modified.
Now we believe that there must be a way to a modern religious system so to speak and this is what we are chasing in these religious writings. Here I have to say that in my own ways I am writing all these religious writings for the benefit of mankind.
Of course we have already a theory that we are writing and we are going to put forward, in our next group of hubs in part three, but before we do that we also need to say a few other things, starting by looking briefly at the New Testament in our next hub, since this is just another link of the chain that binds every religious thing together.
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Man needs God
The Bible is Hebrew history  
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
Next time with, the new Testament discussions.   
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Friday, August 22, 2014

Israel exodus from Egypt

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Moses meets God on Mount Sinai, in the form of a burning bush, when Moses asked him who should I say has sent me to the Pharaoh, he said Yahweh, this is how we know the name of God is Yahweh.   


Israel exodus from Egypt
Welcome to our post of; Israel exodus from Egypt and the Mosaic laws.
May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious posts?
In our study of religions and how they serve humanity, we are also in search of how to reconcile religions and therefore any religious event that have shaped religion, in the hope that one day we would be able to use this knowledge to suggest what could be done to improve religions, or at least help religions survive at their best, since there are signs that religion is becoming less important these days, so we are back to review very old events to refresh our memories and see if we could use what we have learned, in this case we will talk about, Israel exodus from Egypt.
In the Old Testament according to the Bible Moses was to be killed from the Egyptians when he was born, but his mother abandoned him on a floating devise on the river Nile hoping for a miracle, so, it happened that he was saved from the river Nile from an Egyptian princess that had no children, he grew and learned in the Egyptian court the Egyptian’s ways, but one day he was attracted to his people and did something bad enough that the Egyptian Pharaoh banned him from Egypt, by now he knew that he was an Israelite and not an Egyptian, so he went in the desert thinking what he could do to help his people, he did not know yet that he had been selected by God to be the Hebrews leader that would lead the Hebrews back to the Promised Land, which was the same land that God had already given to Abraham their forbear.
As we all know since it is written in the Bible and we have been told about this event many times, since it is one very important event in the Old Testament; one day Moses felt the need to go up Mount Sinai to investigate what was there, since he was seeing some abnormal signs, so he went up Mount Sinai and saw a burning bush, but this burning bush was different from a normal burning bush, because while it seemed to be burning it did not burn out, a voice seemed to come from this burning bush telling Moses; stop where you are and take your shoes off you are on sacred land; this was the voice of God who appeared to Moses in the form of a burning bush and spoke to Moses, God said that he had heard the children of Israel laments and prayers, so he would help them to be free from the Egyptian bondage.
Now, because the Israelites were praying to the God of Abraham for this reason He ordered Moses to go back to Egypt to free his people from the Pharaoh slavery. Then when Moses asked God who I should say has sent me to the children of Israel and to the Pharaoh, God said, I am who I am and tell the children of Israel and say that Yahweh the God of your Father has sent me. (This is how we know that the name of God is Yahweh) So Moses went back to Egypt and after lots of arguments with the Pharaoh and some divine intervention from Yahweh God, which we are not going to write them here because they are too long and this article is more about the exodus from Egypt than what happened during this initial part. Anyhow in the end Moses finally succeeded to lead his Hebrew people out of Egypt.
As they left Egypt the Pharaoh tried once more to stop them and with his army ran after them; it is said that here again Yahweh God helped the Israelite cross the Red See as if it was dry land, and then the water of the Red See came back and drowned the Pharaoh army that was trying to stop them leaving Egypt. Here we would like to point out that this seems an impossible achievement, however this is what is written in the Bible more or less.
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On their way back to the Promised Land
On their way back to the Promised Land the Israelite went near Mount Sinai, since Yahweh God wanted Moses to go back to him up there, and there Moses went again up Mount Sinai, where he met God again and God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, this is how the Mosaic Laws started.
But let us tell the story in a more detailed way, because while Moses was on Mount Sinai waiting for God to give him the Ten Commandments, he had to stay there for a long time because that is how it happened and while he was there all those people that had left Egypt to go to the Promised Land started to have different thoughts, some of them wanted a god like the Egyptians had and they made up a golden statue of a bull, this action made Yahweh resentful of this god statue, not because of the statue, because it was only a statue and had no power to do anything, but because he wanted the people of Israel to believe only in him, as we could see from the first three commandments that he gave Moses.
Of course Yahweh God punished them for this event. But this event brings some doubts in our minds, therefore we would like to point out and say this; if the people of Israel had really seen and understood how everything had happened, since they were witness to everything that happened, for what reason they wanted this other god? Look they had been freed from slavery, they had crossed the Red See as if it was dry land and they had seen the Pharaoh army drown, what was wrong with them? Or perhaps what was wrong with this story being told one might ask? Because frankly if anyone had seen what we are being told; then anyone that had witnessed those events could not doubt even for a moment Yahweh power. Therefore there are reasons to believe that somehow something is wrong in this story here, but let us continue our story.
During the time that the Israelites were travelling in the desert to reach the Promised Land, Moses seems to have spoken with God several times, so, from these meetings with God, and also from those happenings that took place during this voyage from Egypt to the Promised Land, Moses and his brother Aaron wrote and laid down the first part of the Mosaic Laws that would guide the Hebrews from there on. During this period Yahweh gave Moses many laws the Hebrew were divided in tribes and these formed the 12 tribes of Israel, which are the families of the 12 children of Jacob also called Israel; because Israel is the name that Yahweh God wanted Jacob to be called, in a prior event that happened when Jacob was alive, God said to Jacob from now on you are Israel. That is how the name of Israel came about.
For easiness sake we are going to talk about the tribes of Israel hereunder, so that it is easier for the readers to follow, when they are separated thus.
At this point of time we would like to point out to our readers that we are not only writing all this Bible’s things just to tell you what the Bible says, but, we are also writing this to point out to you that most times people do what they have to do according to the times and places they happen to live in. So, we believe that whatever took place in the Sinai desert including the Mosaic Laws; it was something that at that time and place needed to be done the way it was done, in order to control the people better. About God being the main player and telling Moses everything that needed to be done, we are not sure about that, even though the bible tells us that God did.
Therefore, I rather believe that it was more what Moses and his brother Aaron thought that it was necessary to do at that particular time, than what God was instructing them to do, since they were the leaders of the Israelite they had to come up with some answers, we need also to say that whether there was Yahweh God that would be talking to Moses all the time is doubtful, perhaps if talking to God had happened less often than, it could have been possible? Anyhow, we are going to tell you more about this later on, because now we would like to talk about how the Israelite were divided, since this is very important to know, as they are going to form the 12 tribes of Israel; so now, let us talk about the 12 tribes of Israel.
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The 12 tribes if Israel
The 12 tribes if Israel
The Israelite was divided in 12 tribes one for each family of the children of Jacob, who was also known as Israel, since God had said that he, was to be called Israel.
The 12 children of Israel were: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Benjamin, Zebulon, Joseph, Dan, Asher, Naphtali, and Gad; these were the names of the 12 children of Israel, at least this is how I have found them written, and each and every one of them had their own family and became one tribe. Thus was Yahweh order through Moses, so that the 12 tribes of Israel were somehow independent of each other and they had to look after themselves so to speak, although they had to follow God’s order that went through Moses and his brother Aaron of the house of Levi.
The Bible says that God spoke with Moses many time saying to Moses, go and tell the house of Jacob that they have to do this and that and many other things. Now through all this talking new laws and ways of living were described to the sons of Israel, this is how the Mosaic Laws were formed in the beginning.
Perhaps the best way to show you what I mean is by quoting a few examples from the Bible:
Quote 1: Leviticus 18;
Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:
‘Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them:
“I am Yahweh your God. You must not behave as they do in Egypt where once you lived; you must not behave as they do in Canaan where I am taking you. You must not follow their laws. You must follow my customs and keep my laws; by them you must lead your life.” (There is a lot more that was said and I could write it but, I rather not)
Quote 2: Leviticus 19;
Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:
‘Speak to the whole community of the sons of Israel and say to them:
“Be holy, for I, Yahweh your God, am holy.
Each of you must respect his father and mother.
And you must keep my Sabbaths; I am Yahweh your God.
Do not turn to idols, and cast no gods of metal. I am Yahweh your God.
(There was a lot more that I could write down, but I am stopping my quote here since I was using these two quotes to give examples of what was going on in Leviticus between Moses and God).
As I have already said above God was speaking to Moses so many times in Exodus and Leviticus and even later on, but somehow these talking of God to Moses becomes doubtful, because if these meetings with God had really taken place and they had really happened all the time that it is written in the Bible, then the Israelites would have been more God conscious, but they were not as much as they should have been under those circumstances.
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Doubtful possibilities written
In the Bible there are some doubtful possibilities written
There are a lot of good things written in the Bible and one can go on to talk about them for a long time, but there are also a few things that don’t seem to add up and this is one of them.
By reading the Bible specially Leviticus it seem that Moses and sometimes his brother Aaron spoke with God lots and lots of times one after the other, as if they were normal happenings. But what I cannot understand and would like to ask here is this: if really Moses was speaking with God these many times as it is said in the Bible, it would follow that the Israelites should have seen or at least known what was going on during these times; therefore, they should have believed and follow whatever commands were given to them without even arguing in any ways, since what was being told was from Yahweh their God, but the story of the Israelite tells us that they had always doubts in their minds.
We are saying this because, every now and then the Israelite seem that they were not sure of themselves, and sometimes they were arguing about the reasons why they were there in the desert living a hard life, as if they had not seen what had happened around them.
What we would like to say here is this.
There may well be some reasons to believe that the Israelite of those days, did not see or hear God otherwise they would have had no doubts at all about God or Moses, and they should have been following blind anything that would be asked of them. For this reason it might be that all what has been written in the Bible about God talking to Moses so often might not have taken place at all or not as much as they claim. So everything might have been added later when the Bible was written and re-written many times.
This is one of our views, because we cannot explain it in any other ways and there is a lot more that can be said about these writings that don’t add up, but we leave it as it is for now.
In our next religious post we will still be talking about the Bible, because the Bible was also the Israelite history book, in those ancient times history and religion were written together, because whatever happened was thought to be religious or partly religious, so in our next article we will be talking about this.
So, see you in our next post, The Bible is Hebrew history

May God bless us all?
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Man needs God
Israel exodus from Egypt 
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
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Friday, August 8, 2014

Views about the creation of man

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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Welcome to our blog, Man needs God
and this post, views about the creation of man
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Adam as Michelangelo painted him, in his famous paintings. Here we are discussing whether God could have really made a man like that and then gave him life, as it is claimed in the Bible.





Adam and Eva in the garden of Eden, while Eva is taking one of the fruits from the tree of knowledge, which was the fruit that God had forbidden them to eat.






 Some religious views about the creation of man

May God guide and help me to say the right things in this religious article?
Dear readers, here we would like to point out again that these religious writings are also a study of religions and how religions serve humanity; at this stage we are writing these articles and it may seem as if we are having just frugal talks with our religious friends, but in fact these religious talks are aimed at finding some real religious answers, as we have tried in our previous hubs.
As we have said in our previous articles, there are reasons to believe that all religions could be man-made, we stop short of saying that they are man-made just because we cannot prove it, therefore in this hub we want to collect more religious information and discussions that covers this aspect, and also in this hub we are particularly after information or discussion about the creation of mankind, since our friends Gino and Peter have expressed their doubts about God being able to create man from plain dirt, so somehow this creates another religious doubt, therefore now we would like to learn a bit more and then talk a bit more about this religious aspect.
Here we have to say that I start feeling that my religious friends have had enough about talking religions and they wish that we would change subject, so I need to try to avoid forcing religious talks on them from now on. So, since I have talked to my friend Mark about these religious matters, in our last article I have not talked religion to them any more; but I still want to write about these religious issues, and I need to somehow continue to talk religion to our religious friends, just to see what they think about this or that religious aspect.
So, I believe that from now on it is not going to be easy, because it has become a boring subject for them, since I keep talking to them about religions all the time, so now, I have to wait for the opportunity to talk about religions, in order to have their views about how they feel about this or that religious issue, I could also collect articles from the media to give me an idea what to say, but that is not as good as when I am talking to my friends, because when I am talking to my friends, at least I believe that what I write about my friends speech or discussions is brand new and it will be harder for Hub pages to find my hub having duplicate content, which sometimes is so frustrating and you don’t know where it comes from since you feel that you have written that article for the first time.   
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About hub pages creation of man
We would have liked to continue to write about the creation of man only, and we did, only to be told that our hub had duplicate content, so I have been forced to add this other article just to explain what is happening here.
About Hub pages duplicate content
Whoever has written hubs in Hub pages knows that soon or later may find that some of their hubs have been marked as having duplicate content. I believe that nothing in the writing world is really brand new, because first we have to learn from somewhere else, this is usually several articles that we read, then we try to see which things we agree with, and the rest we will try to forget about them, once we have made up our mind what is right and what is not right, we write it down our own way mixing the subject we have learned, therefore anything that we write have got to have some duplicate content, it cannot be avoided.
In my case of writing religious articles is even worse, because, you see religious discussions tent to say the same things again and again, it is only natural that they do this. To understand what I mean here one needs to follow just any religion. Now if you have gone to mass at the Roman Catholic Church, I am sure that you have noted that the mass is very much the same every time, even the sermons have their yearly cycle, so religion is a repetitive subject where it is hard to avoid repetitions, I hope you see what I mean when I speak of duplicate content.
Anyhow this does not mean that religious hubs would be allowed to have duplicate content, I only want to point it out how hard it is to avoid it. I have also told my friends what happens in Hub pages about duplicate content and all they came up with was; you have to try harder to avoid that and perhaps what you can do is this, you can quote what we say, so that even if we are saying the same things we are saying it and it is not you saying it. This is what my friends have also suggested, but I wonder if it would work; but let us go back to our religious talks about man creation.
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 Some religious talks

These are some religious talks about man creation
As it happened, the other day Mark, Gino and Peter were having this conversation in my presence and Mark was asking Gino;
Mark was saying to Gino;
Frank has told me that you believe and therefore said that God could not have made man from dirt because that would even be hard for God to do; what you have said makes me wonder whether you could tell us something more about the creation of man the way you see it, and perhaps some of the other created things that happen in the Bible.
Gino;
No, Mark I don’t have much to say about the Bible creation, except that if you think about it there are a lot of things that don’t make sense the way they have been written in the Bible, because if we use our imagination and our logic reasoning they seem to be impossible to achieve even for a real God. Therefore that is the reason that I believe that the Jews made up their own God so powerful that could make living people from plain dirt, perhaps also animals and other living things were made that way? Now, here I have to admit that the Bible does not say exactly what I am trying to say here, but you know what I intend to say, the Jews invented their own God, their own ways and for their own needs and they did it in such a way that this God was more powerful of any other God. I hope you see what I mean?
Mark;
Of course I see what you saying Gino! But what you are saying here opens a new way of thinking, if we are willing to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You see if we admit that man was not created by God from dirt, then also other creations are not true or they are only partly true, therefore we may have to look into it and discuss it many times before we can reach a conclusion, it also opens the whole Bible to discussions, as the Bible may not be exactly the word of God, or even inspired by God, just as Frank here said in one of his hubs; Religions are man-made, perhaps we have to agree with Frank description of religions, don’t you agree?
Gino;
Of course I agree with Frank’s descriptions, since I believe that more or less I am trying to say the same thing.
Here Peter comes in saying;
Look I and Gino somehow agree that man cannot be made from plain dirt even if God tries to make him thus; the whole thing seems just too great to be true as our own human understanding tells us. Now, as human if we take away that God is omnipotent and therefore can do anything, which in reality might not be as omnipotent as even God may have to follow the physical laws that exist in the universe; then the possibilities of God making man from dirt is almost nil and therefore there has got to be another way. You see that is the reason why we said what we have said in the first place.
Mark;
I understand what you two are saying, for a while I was worried that you two had become atheists, just as our friend John was saying the other day, when he heard what you have said. Perhaps as your beliefs stand, you may be agnostic rather than atheists.
Frank (me):
 What I have heard from your religious talks today may help me to write a bit more about how people see religions nowadays; it also opens the way for more religious discussions, So one of these days I am going to ask you to have a meeting and have another religious discussion, then, apart enjoying the good times that we have when we are together, I will be able to learn something else about your religious views.
Anyhow now let us enjoy ourselves the normal way I said and let’s forget about religions for a while; you see I had to say this, because I was not going to make my friends hate me for talking about religions all the time, even though religious subject are always on my mind.
Now that I have learned that I cannot ask my friends to talk religious issues all the time, I have to find my own way how to collect other information about the religious subject that I am going to talk about, so I am going to read more religious books and search for religious articles on the Internet and then write my own articles, so I will be taking some views from several articles, and then write a religious article my own way, just the way I see they need to be written in my posts.
Therefore I have made up my mind that I had to find my own way how to research other religious articles, since I could not rely on my friends too much for writing my articles, so there will be more research about creation and the creation of mankind that I am going to write later on, perhaps when we start writing our third part of our religious writing in Reconciliation of the universe. But because we would like to look at the Bible more closely, in our next hub we are going to write, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws. See you there.
May God bless us all?  
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Man needs God
Views about the creation of man
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
Next time with, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws.    
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