Compare the Bible

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The book of the Bible is the most read book in the entire world, there are several religions that derive from the Bible, the Bible is originally the Hebrew religious and historic book, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the Mormons and other smaller religion derive from this book.  
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We believe that The Laws of Manu is the best book to read to learn about the Indian religions. Here is the link for this book,  The Laws of Manu

Comparing the Bible to other religions

As we have already mentioned in our last post, now that we have written how the Bible describes creation and the creation of man, let us compare the Bible to the Indus religions for a start, which is again one of the larger religions of the world.

Now, to talk about religions is hard indeed, since we usually have to repeat the same things again and again just to create that atmosphere of belief, to read and understand a religious book might be okay, if allowance is made to fill the voids that have purposely been made as they always leave doubts within your mind, but when it comes to tell the public and you have to repeat what you have learned, then the trouble starts, because the best thing is to read the book to them. However most times this cannot be done and in this case because we are writing would be a copyright infringement if we write everything down the way that has been written in the book.

In order to overcome that we have to find a way that keeps the information as close as possible to the text we have learned, but at the same time allows us to say the same thing in a different way; for example; We would like to write and inform the readers about the Laws of Manu, which is one of the main sacred Indus books and perhaps the best book to explain creation and the creation of the castes according to the Indus religions.

Now, because we cannot read from the book since we are writing and not talking, first of all, we would like to find somebody that knows a bit about Hinduism and The Laws of Manu, perhaps an Indian who knows about religions. Now hoping the he does not mind to help us, we will ask him about what his religion says about creation and the creation of man, which in this case will be the castes, since in India there are castes and how these castes came about. We would like to know about the castes because here we are writing about the creation of man.

Let me say this, we are going to ask this Indian about religions and see what he has to say, at the same time we will be reading and checking with The Laws of Manu book just to make sure that we don’t end up saying something that doesn’t make sense, because we want to stay with the main stream of the Indus religions and in particular with the Laws of Manu, since we believe that it is the best religious book to follow.

Now let us see how the Indus religions start, according to the Laws of Manu sacred book:

Briefly speaking the great sages asked the great Manu about the creation and the creation of the castes, and Manu answered them accordingly.

Here we are not able to continue until we talk to our Indian friend Butta as soon as we are able to, because as we have said we would like to know also from real people what they think about their own religion.

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The Laws of Manu creation

In this article we are going to talk about the Laws of Manu, but to do that we are going to talk to some Indian people about their religion, we know some Indian people and therefore we are going to talk to them and see what they say about their religion. In our case we already know that in India there are many sorts of religions, and we know also that as soon as anyone asks an Indian about their religions, they are going to say that it is not easy to talk about just a religion, because there are too many divisions in their religions. Having this in mind, we are going to ask our friends, how their religious leaders explain creation, because we believe that the creation of the world and creation of man would be mostly the same in all Indus religions.

Finally we have been able to talk to our Indian friend Butta and a few other Indian people and we told them that the other day we were talking with some of our friends about the world creation and the creation of mankind; of course we were talking about our own Christian religions and our beliefs of how everything started. Now just out of curiosity and perhaps to compare two different religions, we would like to know how the Indian religions describe creation and the creation of mankind, it took us a while to convince our friend to talk, but in the end he said:

Look, I don’t know a lot about religions because I am not a Brahman, but I can tell you a few things that I have learned during my life. It seems to me that what you want to know is too much from me to explain, so I would suggest that you read The Laws of Manu, where these things are explained, however I am telling you what I can.

You see in the Laws of Manu there are these sages that ask the divine Manu these same questions that you are asking me, so if you want to know exactly how everything was created and everything else read this book. Now just to give you an idea how the world started it goes like this:

This universe existed in the shape of darkness, wholly immersed, as it were, in a deep sleep. And then the divine Self existent Svayambhu, appeared with creative powers dispelling the darkness.

Desiring to produce many kind of beings from his body, he created the waters and placed his seed in them, his seed became a golden egg and from the egg was born Brahman, the progenitor of the world. Brahman being the progenitor of the world created everything else, this is how the world started, and now let us sees how the four castes or mankind started.

Mankind was started from Brahman, and it is said that in order to protect the universe, the most resplendent one assigned separate occupations to those that sprang from his mouth, arms, thighs, and feet.

The Brahmans who sprang from his mouth he assigned teaching and studying the Veda, they are like the priests or the house of Levi in the Bible, if one wants to compare them to the western religions. Now, because the Brahmans sprang from Brahman’s and possesses the Veda, he is by right the lord of all creation.

The Kshatriya he commanded to protect the people, to study the Veda and other duties.

The Vaisya to tend cattle, to offer sacrifices, to study the Veda and other duties

The occupation of the Sudra is to serve meekly the other three castes.

If you want to read more about The Laws of Manu,

here is the link; The Laws of Manu

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Conclusions

Now let us talk briefly the pagan religions, that were the main religions in the western world before Christianity, this religion had many gods and goddesses and many other things and beliefs. Anyhow here is a hub link to check it out, it is good to know, just click on this link,  

hub.me/agotI 

What we have written above are the three main religions of the world, and it is worth to compare them in order to learn about ourselves. It is necessary to learn all this since today we have also to take into consideration evolution, and other religions that explain their own ways about the creation and the creation of mankind. So we should wonder which one of these theories is the closest to the truth.

Anyhow we would like to add more articles about creation later on if we can, but for the time being we are happy to say that these three religions cover most about creation, the only other thing we can say is that there is no real creation in the ancient religions. So these religions say very little about creation, and when they say anything is very vague; In Greek and Roman mythology it seems that creation started with Mother Earth and the sky, somehow the god Eros was born from them and he started to stir thing up and most things were created from this chaos that Eros created and many other strange things, of course some of this information is also in the link above, (hub me/agotl).

Of course we may believe that if we mix all religions and what is believed about creation in religions, we might come to believe that perhaps evolution has the upper hand, but this is not to say that God and other spiritual being have not played a part in creating every living thing, because we believe they have, as we are going to mention this in our religious theory of Reconciliation of the universe, in this third part of our religious writings.

In this very complex world of religions and religious beliefs, one may wish that there is a supernatural power to help him, and thus I say; May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious writings.

See you in our next post where we will start, Reconciliation part three

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Talking about creation

MAN NEEDS GOD. We believe that, there is only one God throughout the universe and God is the universal life force that guides and gives life to the entire universe. Therefore every living thing is part of God life force, since God is the essence of all life in the universe.
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And this post, Creation and creation of mankind

Talking about creation

This is an imaginary way that explains the creation and the creation of mankind according to the Bible. 

Talking about creation

May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious writings

We all know that as soon as we mention the word creation most of us that live in the western world think about the Bible creation, this is just because we have been taught to believe in this sort of creation since we were young, because our forbears believed and talked about this creation as we do today; but then if we look at other religions and beliefs of the entire world population we realize that not all of us believe in the same creation, therefore since we claim here that we are studying religions and the ways they serve humanity, we have to look also at least to other main religions and how the world was created according to these religions and also the creation of mankind. You see it would be necessary to do that in order to have a better understanding of all religions and what are their differences, starting from the beginning and therefore creation.

Of course there are also the possibilities that all sorts of creations that the religious people put forward don’t exist at all, because it is possible that everything happened by itself as it is claimed in the theory of evolution and other things that the modern scientists claim to be possible to happen.

But here at this point of time, we don’t want to argue about whether we have to believe that creation according to religions is right or evolution is right, we want only to see how most religions explain creation and the creation of mankind. In order to do that we are going to describe a few religions and how they explain their religious creation? So let us start with the Bible creation, since we are part of the western world religious beliefs:

Creation according to the Bible

So let us see what the Bible says by using and navigating this link  www.catholic.org/

In order to describe this creation according to the Bible, we are going to ask a normal layman called Don how he does understand creation according to his religious beliefs.

Okay Don, we are trying to understand the people what they think about creation, so we would like to ask you how you understand creation according to your own religious beliefs?

Don answer

I am a Roman Catholic born and baptised therefore I believe in creation according to the Bible. You know the Bible is supposed to be the word of God, or at least God’s revelations through the prophets; therefore I believe that God created the world in seven days at it is said in the Bible, even if I might have to allow that a day in the Bible might not be one day of twenty four hours as we know it today?

Don can you describe us creation itself please.

As you know; in the beginning God started by creating heaven and earth, at is said that the earth was a formless void and God created them. I know that the Bible might describe that better and make more sense but this is how I see it.

There was darkness over the water on the earth and God said; let there be light and there was light, and God saw that the light was good and divided light from darkness and he called the light day and the darkness night. God also divides the water of the earth and the sky. This is the first day of creation.

After the first day of God’s creation in the Bible, God continues to create the rest of everything else in next four days as we know them and then the sixth day God creates man.

Here Don stopped as if he had said everything that there was to say, so we had to ask Don again. Don please can you continue to describe the creation of man please.

And Don said

Now the creation of man is a bit strange, because there are two descriptions in the Bible, the first description says that God said, ‘Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and then he said let them be masters of everything we have created. Now you listen carefully what the bible says next, because this is a quote that I am quoting from the Bible, Quote: God created man in the image of himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them. End of quote.

Then God blessed them, saying to them, ‘be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth and subdue it. Be the masters of everything; this is more or less what God said to them. Of course this is not all because there is more to say about man creation, which will be written here-under. Please note that there is some difference how man was created.

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Here we will continue with the second description of the creation of man

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Second description of the creation of man

The second description of the creation of man

When Don finished telling us about the first creation of man, he stopped talking and was wondering whether he should continue, but we encouraged him to continue, so he said:

Look he said, I wonder which one of these two descriptions is right that is why I don’t know how to go on; anyhow let me tell you this second description of how man was created, you see, to me and perhaps to other people also it might seem that it has been added later on, so let me say how I understand it.

In the Bible it says that at the beginning, there was no wild bush or any wild plant growing, because Yahweh God had not sent rain on earth, nor man to till the soil: I think that it is strange that God needed man to till the soil and for this reason God created man, however let me continue this second creation of man.

In those times, water flowed out of the ground and watered the surface of the soil, so we should imagine that the soil was wet all the time, now here I would like to quote what the Bible says; Quote; Yahweh God shaped man from the soil of the ground and blew the breath of life into his nostrils, and man became a living being. End of quote.

Then Yahweh God made a garden with all sorts of plants including the tree of life and the tree of knowledge and put the man he had made in the garden, God also let the man know that he was the master of everything.

And still there is another creation going:

Here Don sighed and said, strange as it may seem this is different from the first creation of man, because in the first creation Yahweh God made man and woman together, but here they are created in a different way.

Now the man being master of everything gave names to all cattle, birds and wild animals, but no helper was found for him.

Here the Bible says that, Yahweh God made the man fall into a deep sleep, He took a rib from the man and made that rib into a woman; that is why we sometime hear say when man describe woman; this one at last is bones of my bones and flesh of my flash! And we call her woman because she was taken from man.

This is how the Bible explains creation and the creation of mankind.

If you want to read more about the Bible here is another link that might be a bit easier to navigate; www.catholic.org/bible/

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Now that we have described creation and the creation of mankind according to the Bible with the help of Don; we are going to move on and describe some other religions about how those religions describe creation, so that we would be able to compare the difference. However we also think that we have said enough in this post, so we will see you in our next post, where we are going to compare the Bible creation to other religions. See you there.

May God bless us all?

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http://publicreligiousforum.yolasite.com

Sorting out religions

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There are several religions today in the world, some of them may well be old fashioned, so a review and a new way of understanding religions the modern way could be helpful.

Sorting out religions

Sorting out what to sort from religions

Dear readers, as we have said in our previous post, the trigger that made us write these religious issues was the 9-11-2001 terrorist event, because of this event we decided to write our religious theory, our theory is based on our religious old beliefs, so we decided that we need to sort out those beliefs to come to a possible conclusion.

Perhaps to sort out those religious information’s that could be helpful one should look at what most religion do and believe today, and since we would like to bring most religions together, then it is obvious that we have to choose those things that all religions have in common; at this stage we have reasons to believe that most or perhaps all religions believe in some sort of spirituality; so spirituality is the first thing that we have to use, if we want to bring religions together, if we are able to do that then it will show that there is a link that binds all religions together, this link should show us that indeed we might all belong to the eternal spiritual life forces that make life possible in the universe.

Having said that there are of course the differences that exist in the religious world, there are also all those theories of how this or that religion has started; and also all the gods and goddesses, saints and other religious entity and events that happen in any of these world religions. Anyhow, now we know or at least we believe that we have to work with spirituality above all, if we want to bring all religions close together, let us see briefly what sort of spirituality the main religions contain:

Since the Christian religion is one of the largest, let us mention a few things about its spiritual content; at the top of all the spiritual entity there is God (Yahweh, Jehovah, and/or Allah) followed by archangels, angels, saints and worthy souls; now in order to keep in a certain order to make sense, one could say that these are followed by the devils and the nasty souls, of course all these spiritual entities dwell in another dimension and they cannot travel freely to our dimension, but , it is believed that somehow God the master and life giver of the entire universe has made it possible for the souls of people to travel in and out of our dimension and the spiritual dimension, only when they are born and when they die. This is in a nutshell how spirituality in the Christian religion is supposed to be, because this is how our forbears have passed down this information to us, because they have believed it to be so.

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Spirituality in some other religions

Spirituality in some other major religions

Spiritualty has always existed in the religious world, so here we are going to talk about some of religious spiritual beliefs, let us start from the Egyptians.

The Egyptians have the book of the dead and other written evidence is found even today in the pyramid walls. Generally speaking the Egyptian believed the people had a soul and that the Pharaoh was a descendent of the gods and at his death he could again join the gods in the afterlife, people also had souls but they were less important than the Pharaoh. In this evidence that we find today, there are funeral texts designed to ensure that deceased souls reach a pleasant afterlife through the elaborate rites at their death, and there are many other things, there was also this belief that souls needed food after their death.

The Indians have the Vedas and many other books; one of the books that make sense to us westerners is the Laws of Manu, where at least we are able to understand a few things about the Indian religious beliefs; these beliefs are very complex and they are very hard to explain unless we read from the book of, The Laws of Manu, so to make it easier for our readers, we are going to quote part of the first chapter just the way I have found it on the Internet, and here I quote:

1. The great sages approached Manu, who was seated with a collected mind, and, having duly worshipped him, spoke as follows:

2. 'Deign, divine one, to declare to us precisely and in due order the sacred laws of each of the (four chief) castes (varna) and of the intermediate ones.

3. 'For thou, O Lord, alone knowest the purport, (i.e.) the rites, and the knowledge of the soul, (taught) in this whole ordinance of the Self-existent (Svayambhu), which is unknowable and unfathomable.'

4. He, whose power is measureless, being thus asked by the high-minded great sages, duly honoured them, and answered, 'Listen!'

5. This (universe) existed in the shape of Darkness, unperceived, destitute of distinctive marks, unattainable by reasoning, unknowable, wholly immersed, as it were, in deep sleep.

6. Then the divine Self-existent (Svayambhu, himself) indiscernible, (but) making (all) this, the great elements and the rest, discernible, appeared with irresistible (creative) power, dispelling the darkness.

7. He who can be perceived by the internal organ (alone), who is subtile, indiscernible, and eternal, who contains all created beings and is inconceivable, shone forth of his own (will).

8. He, desiring to produce beings of many kinds from his own body, first with a thought created the waters, and placed his seed in them.

9. That (seed) became a golden egg, in brilliancy equal to the sun; in that (egg) he himself was born as Brahman, the progenitor of the whole world.

End of quote from The Laws of Manu.

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Now that we have quoted a small part of the beginning from this Indian sacred book The Laws of Manu, it becomes evident that the laws of Manu it a very long conversation between the sages that ask Manu many religious issues and Manu that will explain to them very detailed religious issues; here I have to say that there is a lot more to read in this great book, so I strongly advise to use the link in this hub to read more about the great Manu.

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Other religions from the Indian religion

Other religions were born from the Indian religion

The Indian religions have many ways and there are many beliefs, we don’t know very much about them, since even the Indians themselves cannot explain their many religions and ways of beliefs. What we in the western world know is that from the Hindus religions comes another important religion the Buddhism.

Buddha story goes like this; when Buddha was young 2600 years ago he was a prince, he was a young man called Siddhartha but even though he was a rich prince he dealt with similar struggles that we have today. It is said that he was born as a crown prince and was also blessed by having an extremely beautiful wife. But still he was not completely happy, because he felt that something was missing in his life. So one day he left everything and went in search of complete happiness and what is the meaning of life. It seems that he found some of his answers and from his new found knowledge created unintentionally a new religion, just by teachings what he had found.

Today Buddhism is an important religion; the leader of this religion is the Dalai Lama, but unfortunately because China has occupied Tibet, which is the main place of worship for the Buddhism religion, the Dalai Lama has been banned from Tibet, but the religious people still believe that he is the leader of this religion. I don’t know much about this religion, but has we have seen this religion it is there to try to solve the meaning of life, so let me quote here what I have found lately:

Perhaps this is what the Buddhists are after, and I quote:

Knowing life purpose would invest everything one did with meaning. Whether reading a book, performing a task, or caring for one’s health, one would feel deep commitment and satisfaction. Even if one was suffering from a dreadful disease, enmeshed in a family quarrel, or stung by a humiliating defeat, the power to live-the determination to overcome any obstacle in order to fulfil life’s great purpose- would always come flooding back. In his own the Genealogy of Morals, Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) effectively underscored the importance of the meaning of life when he wrote that man desires suffering and “even seeks it out, provided that he has been shown a meaning for it, a reason for suffering”.

End of quote; well it seems to me that there are very deep and meaningful meanings in this quote.

From this quote of Friedrich Nietzsche that man desires suffering and even seeks it out, provided that he has been shown a meaning for it, a reason for suffering. In other words one can say that man would do anything as long as he believes what he does is the right thing to do according to his beliefs, you see it is just what the Muslim do, they think that it is al-right to kill, as long as they believe that their religions wants it that way.

I believe that I have said enough in this post, so see you in our next post, about Creation and the creation of mankind.

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Sorting out religions 

IS TO BE CONTINUED;

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http://ifyoubelieveingod.blogspot.com/

http://manneedsgod.co.uk

http://frankmenchise.com

http://diybrickwork.com

http://publicreligiousforum.yolasite.com

The religious trigger

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Here I would like to tell you what was the trigger that has made me write this religious theory; look here under to see the real trigger that made me decide to write this theory.

This is how I remember it, I was watching this event live on TV, when the second plane smashed into the second tower, I will remember it my entire life, these things cannot be forgotten, because it will be locked into my memory as long as I live.

The religious theory trigger

Dear readers, let us explain what was the trigger that motivated me to write these religious writings; the trigger that really set me thinking that we the people of this world needed to do something about these religious issues, or at least have our say, was the terrible event of nine eleven 2001, when New York City and other places in the US became under attack presumably from religious fanatics, at least that was the way that the press reported it and the way we saw it in the beginning, because whoever organized it used religion in such a way that brainwashed those that did that terrible act. Therefore, we believe that behind this attack there is a lot more that just plain religious fanatics attacks, so let us imagine what it could have been?

First of all we have really to try and distinguish what really the attack was; as there are many reasons to believe that it was a deliberate attack to the US mainland, not only in a religious way but in many other ways as well, and it was meant also to tell the western world to mind their own business and do not mingle with their religious and political ways of running their own affairs. But they chose America for their first target just because they hate America more than the rest of the western world, and they were jealous of America being so powerful and sometimes telling them what to do even in their own country.

Perhaps we may have to admit that America sometimes mingles too much in other people business, because they believe that they could or would show these people how to live a better life, because they believe that they are the best at everything, (perhaps they are) but they don’t see that they live in the western world, so their value of how to live a good life is different from the value that some other people give to how to live a good life.

 Therefore a large part of these other people do not see it the same way as the Americans see it and therefore they want to stop America interference, this is how some of us see these happenings today. Now while we are editing this hub there are other terrible things happening in Iraq and we believe that they are the consequences of the war waged to remove Saddam Husain regime, here again the rebels that do most damage are supposed to be Islamic religious extremist. Anyhow here we would like to point out also that whatever we do there are other consequences, therefore the Americans and the western world need to slow down and wait for those that don’t believe in the western civilization, we have to wait as long as it take until those people are ready to copy our ways, if and when they are ready to copy us and if they don’t they don’t.

So as you can see we could go on arguing about the reasons why these terrible things happen and who is at fault, but that is not what we want to do, because here we have started our religious writing, because we want to write our religious theory, so we have to leave behind these arguments between America and other people and go back to write our religious theory, in the hope that we find a way how to stop these terrible happenings at least in a religious way; so let us start to talk about our religious theory.

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Theory based on old beliefs

This new religious theory needs to be based on old beliefs

This new religious theory that we have in mind to write and suggest to the world, because we believe that soon or later it is going to be necessary to do something like this, it needs to be based on the entire world existing religious and spiritual beliefs that we have today, first of all because it is necessary to continue religions the way they are today, so that people will not become upset, since religions for most of us is a way of life that has been passed down from generation to generation, therefore believing in what we have always believed helps us to live a better life in our own ways?

Therefore, this is one of the main reasons that we need to be careful if and when we try to modify religions, as it needs to be done very gradually and in such a way that most if not all the people accept it willingly, and those religious changes should only take place when the public is ready to accept them? We know that some of you are going to say that if most people don’t like to change religious beliefs, why make the effort to change them, or make an effort to suggest changes of religious beliefs, even if what is suggested is only a theory that is still being drawn, in the hope of solving some of the existing problems.

You see, we believe that there are negative forces that might bring religions down, and perhaps even destroy them, as we have tried to explained at the beginning if this article. Now that we have stated the first main problem that we would encounter in modifying religions, let’s see how we would be able to go about to achieve those modifications without upsetting religious people.

First of all, we should really put all the world religious information available together so to speak, of course this will result in a huge amount of religious information that we need to sort out and we will have to sort them out in a way that most of us would accept? Well that it is not going to be easy to say the least and it will also take a very long time.

Here are some links to the religious books shown beside this article for you to check them out some of the main religions.

www.catholic.org/bible/, The Koran -- Simple Search,

The Laws of Manu, www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/beliefs.htm

Once we have collected all religious information together, we should at least learn our own religion very well, so that we would be able to discuss it easily with anyone wanting to discuss our religion; we have also to learn the most important part of all other major religions, and then we should devise a way how to sort all this information down. Now, to sort any religious information one needs to have at least a guideline of the main articles that one should take into consideration, but this is the hardest part, because how can we decide what to take into consideration and what not to take? This is something that needs to be sorted out first even before we start to do anything. So let us see how we could do this sorting out together, in our next post, sorting out religions.

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Man needs God

The religious trigger 

IS TO BE CONTINUED;

Next time with, sorting out religions    

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Some personal and religious links: 

http://menfranco-re.blogspot.com/

http://ifyoubelieveingod.blogspot.com/

http://manneedsgod.co.uk

http://frankmenchise.com

http://diybrickwork.com